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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I have decided against selling them. That hurts too. No, we are going to destroy them.

    I am not worried about what I would do with them but more worried that some evil, punk, thief-in-the-night will come take them, (as has been done before,) and do harm to one of your children. Or one of my grandchildren.

    I am not saying anyone else should do this. But it's a free country and I am free to destroy them if I want to. And I do.

    You guys have no clue how much I hate doing this. Especially with the carbine. I love these guns. But my folly is not worth your pain.

    I will still hunt and shoot trap though.

    This is gonna hurt.
    Well, hon, you gotta do what you gotta do. I would not be willing to do the same. That is what a high-quality gun safe is for, and I will not let a fear of theives determine my decisions.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, hon, you gotta do what you gotta do. I would not be willing to do the same. That is what a high-quality gun safe is for, and I will not let a fear of theives determine my decisions.
    I totally respect that. But when my house got hit some decades ago, they took my guns, safe, stereo, headphones, guitar and even ripped my rotary dial phone off the wall. Now, I have to live with the fact that a criminal has another ill-gotten gun. My gun. (And it was schweeeet .243.) Perhaps I should have bolted the safe (more like a locked cabinet,) to the floor. Hindsite is 20/20, no?

    But the way I look at it, personally, what good is an assault rifle locked inside a safe when some scumbag comes and kicks in my door? I don't deer hunt with them. (Well, I did take a doe with the SKS once.) I do enjoy shooting them but that enjoyment does not justify the risk in my eyes.

    It's a personal thang.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Me and the wife discussed it last night. Now, everyone here KNOWS I love my guns. Since I got my first Daisy Model 28 pump BB gun I have love to shoot cans (and when mama wasn't looking, maybe a sparrow or two.) That developed in to enjoyment of shooting trap. I killed my first deer before I was 14.

    But I have been thinking pretty hard about it and I (we) have reached our decision.

    I am going to keep my Browning .22, my Ithica 12 ga., and my Remington .3006. And Ol' Roscoe gets to stay in my nightstand.

    But I have decided to destroy my Chinese SKS and my Panther A3 classic. But what REALLY is bringing me down is that I have also decided to destroy my .30 cal M1 carbine my father gave me before he passed away. It is a 1943 issue with General Motors stamped into the barrel. It is truly a collectable.

    I have decided against selling them. That hurts too. No, we are going to destroy them.

    I am not worried about what I would do with them but more worried that some evil, punk, thief-in-the-night will come take them, (as has been done before,) and do harm to one of your children. Or one of my grandchildren.

    I am not saying anyone else should do this. But it's a free country and I am free to destroy them if I want to. And I do.

    You guys have no clue how much I hate doing this. Especially with the carbine. I love these guns. But my folly is not worth your pain.

    I will still hunt and shoot trap though.

    This is gonna hurt.
    When I hear of someone else committing a crime, it doesn't occur to me to damage my own property in response That's like cutting myself because someone else robbed a bank. It doesn't make any sense to me. So, I don't understand your thinking here, do you take a baseball bat to your windshield when you pass by someone who was pulled over?

    Do what you want with your own property, of course, I just don't get it.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    When I hear of someone else committing a crime, it doesn't occur to me to damage my own property in response That's like cutting myself because someone else robbed a bank. It doesn't make any sense to me. So, I don't understand your thinking here, do you take a baseball bat to your windshield when you pass by someone who was pulled over?
    I hear ya Jerry. I didn't make this decision lightly. But that's what I decided to do. Hope it saves a life someday. I dunno.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I totally respect that. But when my house got hit some decades ago, they took my guns, safe, stereo, headphones, guitar and even ripped my rotary dial phone off the wall. Now, I have to live with the fact that a criminal has another ill-gotten gun. My gun. (And it was schweeeet .243.) Perhaps I should have bolted the safe (more like a locked cabinet,) to the floor. Hindsite is 20/20, no?

    But the way I look at it, personally, what good is an assault rifle locked inside a safe when some scumbag comes and kicks in my door? I don't deer hunt with them. I do enjoy shooting them but that enjoyment does not justify the risk in my eyes.

    It's a personal thang.
    That's fine, and I understand, but I am pretty much a collector. I shoot my pellet rifles for fun, and have a couple of nice old vintage ones that I just love for their uniqueness, and I shoot the .22 rifle just to keep familiar with it, and my .38 special just to keep accurate, but if someone can take my safe, they are going to have to come well-prepared, and plan to spend significant time, manpower, and energy to do so.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I hear ya Jerry. I didn't make this decision lightly. But that's what I decided to do. Hope it saves a life someday. I dunno.
    I just don't understand that at all.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I just don't understand that at all.
    Right on Jer. I have to admit, it is very hard to explain. It's just something I feel I gotta do bro.

    My SKS and Panther and M1 were only made to kill people. Other than that, (and them being just downright awesome looking,) I can't see that much use for them anymore. To me, I can no longer justify owning them. I want them gone.

    Stranger things have happened. I still got Roscoe.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Right on Jer. I have to admit, it is very hard to explain. It's just something I feel I gotta do bro.

    My SKS and Panther and M1 were only made to kill people. Other than that, (and them being just downright awesome looking,) I can't see that much use for them anymore. To me, I can no longer justify owning them. I want them gone.

    Stranger things have happened. I still got Roscoe.
    Ooh, so your reasons are more personal, and this story just brought the issue to the surface for you?

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    Absolutely correct.

    The very real anti gun community that wants to ultimately end civilian gun ownership isn't about to try for that; it'd tear the nation apart and they know it.

    The start and focus on making gun ownership more difficult (added regulation and expense). That reduces gun ownership a small sum, but creates a bigger
    electorate of non gun owners as it happens.

    With their new voter base they apply even more burdens to ownership like taxes, ongoing background checks, mental health exams etc; and the size of
    gun ownership shrinks again.

    Then they decide - ok no new guns of a certain kind, then more, and more which creates fewer new gun owners; and their core expands even more.

    Then its banning the transfer of guns to others - at first only inheritance and 10 years later no inheritance even. The number of gun owners naturally
    declines continously. They enjoy a vast majority.

    They start with expansive buy back efforts - these are minor now in comparison and don't really compare to what they'd do then. The simple
    suggestion - turn it in now - get paid - advoid the tax increase coming on it and likely disposal requirements of the future.

    Then finally with the pro gun community down to 10% of the nation, maligned as "gun crazy wackos," they can impose an all out ban
    like they wanted day one.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Not all at once, no. They'd start with much smaller steps, such as the Brady Bill and the fraudulent “assault weapon” ban.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Ooh, so your reasons are more personal, and this story just brought the issue to the surface for you?
    Very personal. I just had the grandkids up for the weekend. Also had a phone call from an old friend (who, I might add makes Rush Limbaugh look like a liberal,) that just had her son and his little friend find her pistol in her drawer. They were playing when the gun went off and now his little friend has permanent brain damage. But, thank God, the little boy lived. But they are both scarred for life.

    Yeah, it's a personal kinda thang. It just doesn't add up anymore at this particular point and time in my life.

    But that's just me. I've done crazier things. LOL!

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