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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I agree, but I would not call it a constitutional right. It is a human right, which we would still have even if there were no constitution.
    But if it were a human right, with no legal enforcement capability, that right would be essentially meaningless, depending on the whims of those in power.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Nice hysterics there Mr TurtleDude, but the article mentions nothing about attacks on gun owners.
    the only hysterics I see comes from people like you who want to use a tragedy that could not have been prevented by your beloved gun control schemes in an effort to punish people like me who are gun owners and hostile to your far left agenda

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Nice hysterics there Mr TurtleDude, but the article mentions nothing about attacks on gun owners.
    BTW gun control as your side frames it-IS AN ATTACK ON GUN OWNERS

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Gun rights are not dependent on need, but only the existence of the constitutional right to own firearms.
    I agree and said the same thing earlier.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    But if it were a human right, with no legal enforcement capability, that right would be essentially meaningless, depending on the whims of those in power.
    I agree with you here as well. It IS a human right, and we are fortunate that the law of land recognizes it as such (at least for the time being).

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its funny how the anti gun groups work

    some scream for bans, and the others merely demand "reasonable controls" made to look more reasonable by the extremism of their fellow travelers. others call those of us who note what the gun haters are up to "paranoid" or worse. Its common for the gun haters to say that no one wants to take your guns or that "registration" is not confiscation. Too bad for you we understand history.
    Show me where in our history that we've banned all weapons. I'd be interested in seeing that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    In that mass shooting, he broke at least 28 laws in what he did. What law will stop that?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is funny given how many of your fellow travelers complain about all the murders in this country. and with more technology, the power of the state continues to grow. I understand you see that as a positive development.
    Don't care much one way or another, a fact is just a fact.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the only hysterics I see comes from people like you who want to use a tragedy that could not have been prevented by your beloved gun control schemes in an effort to punish people like me who are gun owners and hostile to your far left agenda
    You like playing the victim in every circumstance don't you? Relax Mr. TurtleDude, no one has proposed any punishment for you.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    BTW gun control as your side frames it-IS AN ATTACK ON GUN OWNERS
    Show me the current legislation proposed that attacks gun owners?
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