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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    many gun control advocates seem to believe that those who commit robbery rape and murder will somehow obey gun laws

    I don't know about that so much but they sure seem to have the impression that every gun owner is at least somewhat inclined along those lines. I'm pretty much blown away by the sheer volume of comments such as "you're just waiting to shoot someone" if you let on that you own a gun. It's nothing but insanity.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I don't know about that so much but they sure seem to have the impression that every gun owner is at least somewhat inclined along those lines. I'm pretty much blown away by the sheer volume of comments such as "you're just waiting to shoot someone" if you let on that you own a gun. It's nothing but insanity.
    wonder what they think about rape!

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Yes, and many of these ambush shootings occur with illegal firearms purchased or stolen from legal owners. And yes, the problem does start with parenting and family values. Unfortunately in our current state, while both men and women are working, their kids are left with strangers or with no one at all and have to figure out things on their own. Empty and influencial young minds are easily corrupted. I don't see a solution to the parenting issue coming anytime soon. Until society steps back from the hole they have been digging for the last 40 years, we will not fix the issue. In fact, I think feminists have got us so deep into the holes they have been digging, we can't climb out of them. It is nearly impossible for the average person to live on a 1 person income and support a family. This is a direct result of the women's rights movement. There are no longer many women around who would be willing to stay at home and take care of the kids, nor are there women willing to marry down in status or financial wealth to allow a man to sit around the house and take care of the kids. Women statistically marry up as they dont respect a man that earns significantly less than her. That makes it nearly impossible for a family to have at least one parent at home raising the kids. It is something we cant go back to. We will never go back to the 50's values as we have gone to far in the opposite direction and people look down on that kind of society now.
    The thing almost all these shooters have in common, besides age and race, is antidepressant use.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wonder what they think about rape!
    You keep using that word "think" and from what I've seen it rarely applies.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    You keep using that word "think" and from what I've seen it rarely applies.
    I concede the wisdom of that statement when applied to the rank and file gun control supporters

    the leaders of the ARC-they have thought their conspiracy against our rights out long and hard

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It's not that difficult of a fix (as much as it will ever be fixed since these aren't exactly new developments).

    If there is one thing we can do to stem some of this insanity it is to back away from the government policies which enable this kind of behavior. We have spent so much time, energy and money on trying to mitigate the consequences of bad decisions that those consequences barely even exist.

    Yeah, feminists and tree huggers and "social welfare" pimps and race baiters have all had an impact but they wouldn't have that impact if government just learned how to say "NO". The only reason that these groups have been able to have an impact is because they have managed to talk some congressman of senator into pushing a bill which "helps" some poor, dowtrodden "victim of society". Government can and probably should provide a helping hand to those who have hit rock bottom or taken one on the chin but that "help" should be just enough to get the "injured" back up and running, not so much that it becomes a liveable alternative to personal responsibility.
    Well, I hate to dissapoint you, but your idealistic wishes are as unrealistic as theirs. Feminists have dug in and there are no more men left to say NO!. They have all been castrated by feminist ideology.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The thing almost all these shooters have in common, besides age and race, is antidepressant use.
    And questionable parental guidance

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Well, I hate to dissapoint you, but your idealistic wishes are as unrealistic as theirs. Feminists have dug in and there are no more men left to say NO!. They have all been castrated by feminist ideology.
    Its really sad and funny when I ask my married friends if they want to go out and their first response is they have to ask the wife. As if they don;t have minds of their own to decide if they want to go out. Im married, but not to an american girl. I don't have to ask my wife if i can go out, or if i want to play poker, hang out with friends, or whatever I want. As long as I take care of her, she lets me do what I want. Americans males are particularly castrated by their female counter parts. Its so sad and it was not until I spent a good deal of time overseas that i realized it. Then when I came back to the states it was plainly clear what the issues were. Guys in the states are their woman's little bitch. That is the nicest way I can say it.

    Women run everything now in the states, and that is particularly troublesome considering women are emotional thinkers most of the time and not rational thinkers.
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    Re: Gun Control

    I voted "Other" since the question assumes a "potential to save lives" that has not been shown.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    many gun control advocates seem to believe that those who commit robbery rape and murder will somehow obey gun laws
    I'm sure they don't believe that - they believe that police will be able to arrest (some of the) said criminals before they commit the violent crimes because they are found carrying a gun. They also believe if there is less demand and availability in general then the number of guns owned by violent criminals will decrease.



    As usual, though, my stance is there should be no limits on gun ownership of any kind. If I had the money for a tank I should be able to buy one - assuming I'm a non-felon (violent crimes only) that's mentally fit.
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    Re: Gun Control

    No.
    1) 2nd amendment to the dotted I, crossed t, and period.
    2) potential?? Really?? Sounds like Jim mora Jr playoffs rant.
    3) Chicago will show you how they don't work.

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