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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I spent a year in Afghanistan, I'm intimately acquainted with how effective a low-tech 3rd-world militia can be against a modern 1st-world high-tech Army and Air-Force.

    we know your background and why we respect your positions. I am still waiting for Capster78 to tell us what has created such a seething hatred of private gun ownership in him. THis sort of extremism doesn't just appear in people

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I spent a year in Afghanistan, I'm intimately acquainted with how effective a low-tech 3rd-world militia can be against a modern 1st-world high-tech Army and Air-Force.

    Iraqi veterans can tell you the same.
    And you are also acquainted with the limited use of our own force to fight them over there. The only reason they are effective is because we allow them to be.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    So your going to arm yourself and overthrow the government because you have to pay for some poor chicks gynecology appointment?
    I get the impression that you have chosen not to "get it".

    I will NEVER be a subject of the State as long as I have the means to prevent that from happening. I am wholly unwilling to cede my liberty to a "benefactor" and especially unwilling to cede that liberty to a State which has "benefactored" the native Americans on to reservations and imprisoned its own citizens based on nothing other than race. The precedent is there and I am loathe to allow it to happen again.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I get the impression that you have chosen not to "get it".

    I will NEVER be a subject of the State as long as I have the means to prevent that from happening. I am wholly unwilling to cede my liberty to a "benefactor" and especially unwilling to cede that liberty to a State which has "benefactored" the native Americans on to reservations and imprisoned its own citizens based on nothing other than race. The precedent is there and I am loathe to allow it to happen again.
    Get what?? Caught up into some of the crazy things people say on the internet. No, I don't get it. I think there are people out there that need serious medical and psychological assistance and the internet is a good example of that.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Get what?? Caught up into some of the crazy things people say on the internet. No, I don't get it. I think there are people out there that need serious medical and psychological assistance and the internet is a good example of that.
    perhaps exhibit one being someone wanting to ban all guns for honest people creating a society where the cops and the criminals having a monopoly on firepower

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    My daughter used to declare herself the 'victor' much the same way you do now...
    Good for her, benig able to recognize when she is talking to someone that cannot directly address the issues put to him and not letting him spin away from questions/issue he cannot directly address.

    And, I again thank you for your concession of the points.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Is owning a weapon for you a constitutional right...
    It is a constitutional right for you, too.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    It is a constitutional right for you, too.
    I have no need to own one.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Commissioned Law Enforcement Officers ARE different in the eyes of the law
    You're right -- if anything, they are more restricted on when they can use deadly force as a civilian has no duty to try to do everything he can to peacefully apprehend the person threatening him.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I have no need to own one.

    well isn't freedom great-none of us are saying you have to

    perhaps you should do the converse

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