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Thread: Gun Control

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Give it up, I stated multiple times in this thread the early history of the AR-15/M16, the various revisions it has gone through, the differences between the modern civilian and military versions and the modifications that can be cheaply done to the current AR-15.

    You are engaging in pointless discussion.
    All this talk about different rifles, etc, is moot, since they should all be allowed anyway.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    All this talk about different rifles, etc, is moot, since they should all be allowed anyway.
    Undercutting whatever point you were making while being totally obtuse.

    Well done.

    So following this slippery slope, civilians should have access to tactical weaponry.....right?

    While we're at it, let's roll back libel laws also since that is a restriction on speech.

    Good grief.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    So following this slippery slope, civilians should have access to tactical weaponry.....right?
    What is "tactical weaponry"?

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    What is "tactical weaponry"?
    Something scarier than an 'assault weapon', I guess.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    Something scarier than an 'assault weapon', I guess.
    Even while hunting game, one is being tactical, hence the camo, scent masking and animal calls. Having a few people scare a small group of animals in the shooter's direction is a 'tactic', therefore if sticks are used to make noise and scare the animals, that's a 'tactical stick', right? I would think so since you may even put some thought into the stick you pick up and use, desiring one that you could make the most noise with. Maybe the animal is more scared by a scrape then a strike, so you would get a stick with branches limbs as opposed to a straight dead club.

    All 'tactical'.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Then, if "they" wish to control you, its logical that "they" will also control me.
    Of course they do.

    Or, there is a big difference between us...
    What can that be ?
    And why do I not detect "their" presence ?
    I don't know why you don't. However, I'm sure at some point you will.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    You did not describe why the SCotUS would overturn Miller or Heller, you did not explain why you were issued 20rd rather than 5rd magazines, and you did not illustrate an understanding of "due procees" as the term is used in the 5th.

    Thus, you avoided the questions I asked and issues I presented, because you cannot respond with anything of relevance or competence.

    If you disagree, please copy/paste yout text to that effect; absent that, I shall accept your concession of the points.
    You read only what you want, claim, with no substantiation I might add, that Heller and Miller call ARs and AKs home defense worthy. It was very narrow, a man has the right to self defense IN HIS OWN HOME. It never lists what weapons are acceptable or forbidden, nor does it limit the Government's right to, merely says some form of firearm is is permitted and the right is individual, not dependent on a militia- which cut the legs out of the 'we are part of the disorganized militia so we get military grade weapons' crowd.

    You refuse to read Justice Scalia's opinion that the 2nd A isn't unlimited and can be 'infringed'. The threshold was home defense, it can easily be decided that ARs and AKs are not home defense weapons. Neither Heller or Miller claims they are. For that matter 30 round, 20 round, whatever the number isn't endowed upon us by the Creator, but by secular law.

    You will get all the process you can handle if another AWB or mag cap bill is passed.... show me where a future ban or restriction was declared Unconstitutional.

    I explained why I was issued 20 round magazines. I was not a civilian when I received them, nor a member of Law Enforcement. If you had raised your right hand and done what I did you would see such 'never been' questions as pointless.

    Keep up the idle prattle while refusing to see the issue from any direction but your extreme one.

    For years the NRA could have forced the issue but refused to, some say because if the issue was decided the money flow would end. (some say because for all the hot rhetoric many in the NRA know the issue could easily be decided against them and smart lawyers don't push a case they don't think they can win.)

    Anyway, Justice Scalia gave the NRA a peek at his hold card. It doesn't look good if further restrictions pass through Congress and the President signs them.

    Remember the ONLY thing that saved ARs and AKs last time was a time limit on the bill.

    The NRA was smart enough to never take the issue to court. Would have been a glorious victory by the rabid 2nd A folks...

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    You read only what you want...
    I accept your concession of the points. Thank you.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    I accept your concession of the points. Thank you.
    point proven you only see what you want, refuse to show where any decision supports your contention... Salute the flag, declare victory, hall it down and sail away... time will tell...

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    point proven...
    That you conceded the points. Thank you.

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