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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordenkalt444 View Post
    Lol what? We should have less gun restrictions, Switzerland is an example of a country with little restriction.
    Only because it comes with mandatory service to the government which you said you wouldn't accept.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only because it comes with mandatory service to the government which you said you wouldn't accept.
    paying taxes is mandatory service to the government. Switzerland has more restrictions that the USA does but if its number of guns that cause crime, Switzerland sort of bitch slaps that argument away

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    any restriction that is imposed as feel good measures or worse-designed to harass people while pretending to be a crime control measure is unconstitutional

    and since the militia requirement was never condition precedent for the right, your qualifiers have no merit
    I would say your attempt to flip logic on it's ear to argue that decoupling of militia from individual Right to Keep and Bear has no merit. No militia requirement = No need for high cap mags for semi only rifles. What you call feed good might be what the majority of our citizens call common sense and if demanded by those citizens, codified into law and approved by the Supreme Court- then 'feel good' or not it will be the law of the land.

    There will be no 'harassment', just enforcement- could say mandatory seatbelt laws are harassment.

    Could say alot of things- but you would be incorrect...

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I would say your attempt to flip logic on it's ear to argue that decoupling of militia from individual Right to Keep and Bear has no merit. No militia requirement = No need for high cap mags for semi only rifles. What you call feed good might be what the majority of our citizens call common sense and if demanded by those citizens, codified into law and approved by the Supreme Court- then 'feel good' or not it will be the law of the land.

    There will be no 'harassment', just enforcement- could say mandatory seatbelt laws are harassment.

    Could say alot of things- but you would be incorrect...
    still spewing the same nonsense

    criminals have high capacity magazines

    its illegal for them to have any guns

    but they do

    so we need the same stuff for defense

    cops have gun with high cap magazines

    they are civilians and their employers have determined that such weapons are the most useful devices for self defense against criminals

    so we should have the same stuff

    and again since you are not me and don't have the skills I have you are in no position to tell me what i NEED

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    paying taxes is mandatory service to the government. Switzerland has more restrictions that the USA does but if its number of guns that cause crime, Switzerland sort of bitch slaps that argument away
    Its the difference between a country with the requirement of military training and service for the right to carry a military issue rifle, and one that provides easy access to guns to everyone, including criminals and crazies without any requirement for training or service to the country.

    How Switzerland does bitch slap the US is by actually having a real ****ing militia.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its the difference between a country with the requirement of military training and service for the right to carry a military issue rifle, and one that provides easy access to guns to everyone, including criminals and crazies without any requirement for training or service to the country.

    How Switzerland does bitch slap the US is by actually having a real ****ing militia.
    the average CCW license holder is a better shot and safer gun handler than police officers

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the average CCW license holder is a better shot and safer gun handler than police officers
    The whole point just blew over your head that guns in Switzerland come with a requirement for mandatory service in the their militia.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The whole point just blew over your head that guns in Switzerland come with a requirement for mandatory service in the their militia.
    NO it didn't, I know that and I couldn't care less, this is the USA and we have a constitutional amendment whether the statist gun haters like it or not

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    NO it didn't, I know that and I couldn't care less, this is the USA and we have a constitutional amendment whether the statist gun haters like it or not
    I see, you no longer wish to point to Switzerland as your model. I thought not!
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Keep digging your hole, you just can't accept that the AR-15 was the first version of the M-16, all this noise about development making them "not EXACTLY the same" is funny to watch....especially coming from someone complaining about credibility.

    Once again with the feeling...please.
    "M16" is simply the Army's nomenclature for an AR15 model. The Army does this with every weapon. The Army's M9 is a Beretta 9mm. "Beretta 9mm" is not the 'first version' of the M9, they're the same exact firearm by different names. The M2, a .50cal machine gun, is just the Army's nomenclature.

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