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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is far easier for some to pretend that you are battling vicious demons who would destroy your rights and those of Americans rather than simply deal with the reality of a persons position.
    Unfortunately for many of us, the reality is that there are far too many authoritarian control freaks out there that DO want to control, rule, and dominate us. That is not pretending; that is reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Unfortunately for many of us, the reality is that there are far too many authoritarian control freaks out there that DO want to control, rule, and dominate us. That is not pretending; that is reality.
    Then you should find them and debate them where your prepared and prepackaged talking points may fit better.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Then you should find them and debate them where your prepared and prepackaged talking points may fit better.
    Unanswerable talking points, apparently, judging by your inability to address them.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Why ?
    Could it be that the Swiss are far more civilized that us ?
    Or is it "we" ?
    And "we" have already been thru "less restrictions", thanks to the conservatives...
    The first thing we must do is have 100% background checks for 100% of potential gun owners....the liberty lovers will NOT like this......
    The next step is to ban the assault weapon ownership for civilians....
    Think I am angry now ?
    If I were a parent of a murdered child..........
    More regulation is much different than a complete ban, but either way we would also need to fund more enforcement programs which would impossibly try to watch every person that cant buy a gun. They will try, one way or the other. If everyone were armed, no one would want to mess with each other. Your comment about murdered children, what happened was a tragedy which is exactly why we need to prevent it from happening again.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Mandatory military service does have its merits, if instilled, another tax hike, but, maybe worth it...this may help with the "better people" thing of mine.
    Included would be how to handle and respect a weapon, also, our government would know a lot more about its people....
    Maybe our voluntary military is not the best way of doing things.
    To a degree, instead I think if government were to invest in this they should just sponsor compulsory classes that teach people how to respect a weapon. For example, every citizen can take 10 day classes by age 18. I dont agree with compulsory service or drafts for that matter.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Are you referring to the lottery magnificant mile? That's north of Chicago, near Waukegan and Gurnee, near the stateline, isn't it?
    Nah, Michigan Ave down around the river

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    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Unanswerable talking points, apparently, judging by your inability to address them.
    Get real. You are clearly doing one of two things:

    1 - asking detailed questions about the inner workings of a law and how certain situations are handled under that law but will NOT avail yourself of the laws in states which already do what you are asking about , or
    2- playing a silly game trying to trap me into trying to defend a law which is not yet passed and which is not mine in the first place

    By your response above, it is obviously the second and you care really nothing about what the law does.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Get real. You are clearly doing one of two things:

    1 - asking detailed questions about the inner workings of a law and how certain situations are handled under that law but will NOT avail yourself of the laws in states which already do what you are asking about , or
    2- playing a silly game trying to trap me into trying to defend a law which is not yet passed and which is not mine in the first place

    By your response above, it is obviously the second and you care really nothing about what the law does.
    I thought you had said that you supported universal background checks. I want to know how the law you support would actually work.

    For example, let's say that federal agents raid a home and find a gun. How do they know whether or not the owner had a background check performed on him prior to being given that particular gun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I thought you had said that you supported universal background checks. I want to know how the law you support would actually work.

    For example, let's say that federal agents raid a home and find a gun. How do they know whether or not the owner had a background check performed on him prior to being given that particular gun?
    Why do you keep confusing me with the authors of the laws that are now on the books and in practice in several other states?

    Is there some reason why you want me to do your research for you instead of doing it on your own the way everybody else does?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why do you keep confusing me with the authors of the laws that are now on the books and in practice in several other states?

    Is there some reason why you want me to do your research for you instead of doing it on your own the way everybody else does?
    It's fine with me if you don't want to offer any support for the laws you advocate. The less support for universal background checks, the better, in my opinion.

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