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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there you go raising practical issues with this issue. As I noted, its like demanding that pushers only sell crack or crank to those with prescriptions. What I do know is that the more proactive thinkers in the anti gun movement want complete registration of all weapons so the government can do spot checks to see what you have and if you sold something
    Good point. It sounds doubtful that this loophole could be closed without also implementing a federal gun registration scheme. That may be why its proponents clam up when asked for the gory details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Why ?
    Could it be that the Swiss are far more civilized that us ?
    Or is it "we" ?
    And "we" have already been thru "less restrictions", thanks to the conservatives...
    The first thing we must do is have 100% background checks for 100% of potential gun owners....the liberty lovers will NOT like this......
    The next step is to ban the assault weapon ownership for civilians....
    Think I am angry now ?
    If I were a parent of a murdered child..........
    so what you are saying is that you base your views on gun control through an extremely emotional lens?

    what we need to do is make sure if our weapons are taken by force we use them on those who instigated the oppression

    and if cops have assault weapons (whatever those are) we should have them too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Good point. It sounds doubtful that this loophole could be closed without also implementing a federal gun registration scheme. That may be why its proponents clam up when asked for the gory details.
    its amazing so many of them are intimately familiar with the failure of the war on drugs and expect it to be any different.

    dishonesty is the main stock in trade we get from the anti rights coalition members

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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Glad we have cleared up that there is indeed a gun show loophole where you can buy a gun without a background check.
    Its not a loophole-the law was intended only to apply to those who have to keep records of weapons they receive in the course of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Good point. It sounds doubtful that this loophole could be closed without also implementing a federal gun registration scheme. That may be why its proponents clam up when asked for the gory details.
    why are you calling it a loophole-have you been reading the lies of the anti gunners? a loophole suggests someway of evading a uniform law. The law was never intended to cover those who do not have a legal duty to maintain log books of all weapons received and sold in the course of business

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its not a loophole-the law was intended only to apply to those who have to keep records of weapons they receive in the course of business.
    As someone who deals with the writing of legislation on a weekly basis, loopholes do not happen by accident. It was intended to do all the things it actually does and one of which is to provide a way for people to buy weapons without background check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there you go raising practical issues with this issue. As I noted, its like demanding that pushers only sell crack or crank to those with prescriptions. What I do know is that the more proactive thinkers in the anti gun movement want complete registration of all weapons so the government can do spot checks to see what you have and if you sold something
    I do agree with the fears of the level of trustworthiness of our federal government....I also see that the states have failed with English instruction.
    Our government can do a lot more in improving their trust and honesty..
    This will have to occur before we get carried away with adequate gun regulation, including "national ID" .

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    I am emotional - YES
    Being human does this.
    What we need is for the people to have trust in our government....and the police.....if we do not have this, "we in trouble"...
    I do not like the idea of taking.....and I have NEVER advocated this....
    I do advocate the complete background checks and future prevention of the insane owning guns.....
    Insane means , in this case, anything off center....
    And the determination of this is very difficult....I think....

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I am emotional - YES
    Being human does this.
    What we need is for the people to have trust in our government....and the police.....if we do not have this, "we in trouble"...
    I do not like the idea of taking.....and I have NEVER advocated this....
    I do advocate the complete background checks and future prevention of the insane owning guns.....
    Insane means , in this case, anything off center....
    And the determination of this is very difficult....I think....
    complete background checks-so you want to get rid of the privacy act, doctor client privilege etc

    and do you think people who know they cannot pass such a check will not be able to buy a gun

    just like people who don't have prescriptions for Oxy or Vicodin cannot get the stuff?

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    Re: Gun Control

    From thread on authoritarian governments.

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Man must prove to his government that he can handle freedom and liberty.
    I wonder, at times, if our people can do the right thing with these things which the conservatives love so..
    Justification ?
    The people under a fairly benevolent government living in peace and harmony....more or less.....our national interests have to be secondary to the people....this could be, oddly enough, where Russia is ahead of us...
    Thank you sir for proving exactly how much those who love freedom need guns, the more capable the better. That this kind of attitude can and does exist among the American voters is a stronger argument in support of others in America owning military firearms than I could of ever thought of.
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