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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I favor this proposal, its even surprising that it is not in effect now..
    How would we know whether or not a check was actually done if someone sells a firearm to his brother?

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordenkalt444 View Post
    No to be honest I had no idea that Switzerland has compulsory military service, Israel does and they also have a low crime rate.
    Mandatory military service does have its merits, if instilled, another tax hike, but, maybe worth it...this may help with the "better people" thing of mine.
    Included would be how to handle and respect a weapon, also, our government would know a lot more about its people....
    Maybe our voluntary military is not the best way of doing things.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    How would we know whether or not a check was actually done if someone sells a firearm to his brother?
    Good question..
    Easy answer....obvious....
    But, if a gun is "under the table" given to another , then little to nothing practical can be done..
    Nothing is 100% ...nothing...
    Law breakers will increase costs, as usual.....

    And, as to "Democracy..........................and liberty.....
    Are we animals or men ???

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Turtle - I am willing to wager $1,000.00 that this statement is factually true: a person can purchase a firearm at a gun show without a background check.
    I am willing to wager and additional $1,000.00 that this reality is commonly referred to as a gun show loophole.

    Ready to take the wager?
    why are you asking to bet something when I know that in some states you can buy a gun from a PRIVATE seller without undergoing a background check. I have stated at least TWENTY TIMES that the LAW was never designed to cover PRIVATE SELLERS.

    and yes the anti gun forces use LOTS OF TERMS THAT ARE NOT ACCURATE

    the anti gun left assumes that all sales should require a background check even though most ones involving felons never will no matter what the laws

    You can also bet me that many anti gun democrats will call common semi automatic sporting rifles

    "assault weapons" "assault rifles" or even MACHINE GUNS

    being wrong is a common characteristic of that group

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Good question..
    Easy answer....obvious....
    The answer isn't obvious to me. Under your proposed universal background check scheme, what is to stop someone from transferring a gun to his brother without going through the required background check?

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    How would we know whether or not a check was actually done if someone sells a firearm to his brother?
    there you go raising practical issues with this issue. As I noted, its like demanding that pushers only sell crack or crank to those with prescriptions. What I do know is that the more proactive thinkers in the anti gun movement want complete registration of all weapons so the government can do spot checks to see what you have and if you sold something

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordenkalt444 View Post
    Lol what? We should have less gun restrictions, Switzerland is an example of a country with little restriction.
    Why ?
    Could it be that the Swiss are far more civilized that us ?
    Or is it "we" ?
    And "we" have already been thru "less restrictions", thanks to the conservatives...
    The first thing we must do is have 100% background checks for 100% of potential gun owners....the liberty lovers will NOT like this......
    The next step is to ban the assault weapon ownership for civilians....
    Think I am angry now ?
    If I were a parent of a murdered child..........

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why are you asking to bet something when I know that in some states you can buy a gun from a PRIVATE seller without undergoing a background check. I have stated at least TWENTY TIMES that the LAW was never designed to cover PRIVATE SELLERS.

    and yes the anti gun forces use LOTS OF TERMS THAT ARE NOT ACCURATE

    the anti gun left assumes that all sales should require a background check even though most ones involving felons never will no matter what the laws

    You can also bet me that many anti gun democrats will call common semi automatic sporting rifles

    "assault weapons" "assault rifles" or even MACHINE GUNS

    being wrong is a common characteristic of that group
    And nobody is addressing how this loophole they want closed is actually going to get closed. If federal legislation is enacted that requires a background check in all transfers, how would it be enforced? How would anyone even be able to know whether or not Alan did a background check on Bob prior to selling him one of his firearms?

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why are you asking to bet something when I know that in some states you can buy a gun from a PRIVATE seller without undergoing a background check. I have stated at least TWENTY TIMES that the LAW was never designed to cover PRIVATE SELLERS.

    and yes the anti gun forces use LOTS OF TERMS THAT ARE NOT ACCURATE

    the anti gun left assumes that all sales should require a background check even though most ones involving felons never will no matter what the laws
    Glad we have cleared up that there is indeed a gun show loophole where you can buy a gun without a background check.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    And nobody is addressing how this loophole they want closed is actually going to get closed. If federal legislation is enacted that requires a background check in all transfers, how would it be enforced? How would anyone even be able to know whether or not Alan did a background check on Bob prior to selling him one of his firearms?
    That is why I referred you to the states which already do this so you can do your own research and answer your own questions.

    Or since you are so concerned about this sale to ones brother and you seem to envision problems that others simply do not see, perhaps you could design a system which meets your own concerns?
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