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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I agree that mass killings surely bring more media coverage.

    This week, Chicago just set a new record of 500 murders in their fair city this year. Five Hundred.

    It gets about as much total coverage as Sandy Hook does in 20 minutes.

    And, who woulda thunk, that violent crime rates have actually gone down, what with all the people getting blown away here and there. But they have, I'm told.

    None of the gun haters seem to want to acknowledge Chicago has draconian gun laws and twice has been slapped around by the courts for the idiotic bans

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    None of the gun haters seem to want to acknowledge Chicago has draconian gun laws and twice has been slapped around by the courts for the idiotic bans
    Chicago is awful, I have a permanent scar in my right hand from a foiled robbery in Chicago, one block off the magnificent mile.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Chicago is awful, I have a permanent scar in my right hand from a foiled robbery in Chicago, one block off the magnificent mile.
    I on the other hand, have an evidence tag and a little plastic bag of a PMC JHP 9mm that was retrieved from the colon of the mope who tried to mug me in an area where honest people could get permits to carry pistols. the only scar is on my Smith and wesson, when they put an evidence tag on it for the grand jury, the wire scratched the satin-nickel finish

    I prefer that sort of reminder of an attempted robbery over yours

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I agree that mass killings surely bring more media coverage.

    This week, Chicago just set a new record of 500 murders in their fair city this year. Five Hundred.

    It gets about as much total coverage as Sandy Hook does in 20 minutes.

    And, who woulda thunk, that violent crime rates have actually gone down, what with all the people getting blown away here and there. But they have, I'm told.

    No one has convinced me that easy access to guns by criminals and crazies will lower the murders in Chicago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so if someone breaks into my alarmed home and steals a gun in the locked case and then uses a torch to cut the locks off and then shoots someone I should be prosecuted?
    It would require some tweaking I'm sure. If someone stole your car and ran up on a crowded sidewalk with it and they found the car window had been busted out and the ignition hotwired, you could hardly prosecute the owner for negligence. But if someone's guns got stolen, and they never file a complaint or a report, I'm sure some negligence might be levied against the owner.

    It might be a pain in the but to hammer out but I'm cool with trying to. I don't feel threatened by that type of legislation. I would think the more responsible gun owners could get onboard with that too, no? I think the gun owners should step off the defensive here and take the lead in actually addressing the problem. I mean, all the good people want to stop this violent trend be they pro-gun or anti-gun in mindset. That is a good place to start building.

    As a gun owner, I know what I am comfortable with and what I'm not comfortable with. Tighter commerce rules and penalties don't threaten me that much because I have always obeyed the laws anyway. If someone else has a problem with being scrutinized when transfering gun ownership, I don't consider their problem to be mine so I really don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No one has convinced me that easy access to guns by criminals and crazies will lower the murders in Chicago.
    Well, we're talkin' apple and oranges in some ways.

    In Smalltown Ohio, guns are a family tradition often used when hunting and responsible recreation. Every once in a while you get your berserkoid who shoots up a church or a school. Man bites dog. And that makes news.

    In Chicago, guns are used for everyday conflict resolution. More people are systematically killed there in a month than two Sandy Hooks. Thats equal to about 24 Sandy Hooks a year, actually. Dog bites man. No news here.

    I can understand why big city mayors would be anti-gun. Guns are a serious problem to them.

    Although, on a brighter note, New York City homicides and shootings are at a record low. New York City homicides, shootings at modern record lows - U.S. News
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    None of the gun haters seem to want to acknowledge Chicago has draconian gun laws and twice has been slapped around by the courts for the idiotic bans
    I think street guns are a big part of the problem in Chicago. It has become the method of conflict resolution. Hypothetically, if there were no guns in Chicago, my money is on their murder rate dropping. (But we know that ain't gonna happen anymore than we can get toothpaste back into the tube. They're to chicken**** to beat the **** outta somebody eye-to-eye. Just "bus' a cap in dey ass."

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Chicago is awful, I have a permanent scar in my right hand from a foiled robbery in Chicago, one block off the magnificent mile.
    Are you referring to the lottery magnificant mile? That's north of Chicago, near Waukegan and Gurnee, near the stateline, isn't it?

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I on the other hand, have an evidence tag and a little plastic bag of a PMC JHP 9mm that was retrieved from the colon of the mope who tried to mug me in an area where honest people could get permits to carry pistols. the only scar is on my Smith and wesson, when they put an evidence tag on it for the grand jury, the wire scratched the satin-nickel finish

    I prefer that sort of reminder of an attempted robbery over yours
    You should sue for damages. LOL!

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I think street guns are a big part of the problem in Chicago. It has become the method of conflict resolution. Hypothetically, if there were no guns in Chicago, my money is on their murder rate dropping. (But we know that ain't gonna happen anymore than we can get toothpaste back into the tube. They're to chicken**** to beat the **** outta somebody eye-to-eye. Just "bus' a cap in dey ass."
    If there were no illegal drug dealing in the USA I can guarantee we'd have far less crime

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