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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    An armed militia is not the proper response against all criminals. The founding fathers would understand the need to be ready at a moments notice...minutemen...and to be able to fight a threat to the homestead.

    Certainly you do not believe that you or I do not have the right to bear arms against and armed criminal threat?
    Didn't I just say, "Armed defense against criminals " in that quote?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    In Heller the majority rejected the view that the term "to bear arms" implies only the military use of arms:
    Before addressing the verbs “keep” and “bear,” we interpret their object: “Arms.” The term was applied, then as now, to weapons that were not specifically designed for military use and were not employed in a military capacity.

    District of Columbia v. Heller - 07-290 (2008) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center
    That is not what I asked for though... and I disagree with that Decision within that context.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    So you have wasted all this effort to convince us of what the federal government MAY do, but in the end you don't really want it to do anything at all? If you are not for some sort of change, why bother even discussing the issue?
    It is first important to establish what MAY happen before one can consider what SHOULD happen. It is an important part of the process.

    Allow me to amend that last thought: It is an important part of the process to the thinking citizen who values the process and respects it.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I don't favor more gun control, first because of the 2nd amendment, and its importance, and secondly, because I don't believe it would have any effect on lessening violence in this culture. What we have is a cultural problem, not a gun problem.
    What she said. Until we have discipline in schools again with parental and societal support this will only get worse with time.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is first important to establish what MAY happen before one can consider what SHOULD happen. It is an important part of the process.
    Yes, of course. So now that you have established what the federal government MAY do, what do you think the federal government SHOULD do?

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    When the Justice called the intellectual anchor of the conservative side of the Supreme Court says the 2nd Amendment is not unlimited that means something. To use your own description of 'restriction equals infringement' then as far as the Supreme Court is concerned the Right to Keep and Bear Arms can be infringed.

    As mentioned many times before nowhere in the Constitution does it state the 2nd amendment doesn't apply to the mentally ill or felons. The 'show me where in the Constitution' crowd can't be happy.

    Oh the idea of just how the 2nd Amendment is applied is very much part and parcel of the Heller Decision. The Right of self defense in the home was upheld, but not the right of unlimited carry.
    I tried to find a point to your post and I cannot. we are talking about hysterical democrats trying to ban weapons that are

    1) in common use

    2) not any more dangerous than other weapons

    in other words, semi automatic rifles meet the Heller test for protection

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I tried to find a point to your post and I cannot. we are talking about hysterical democrats trying to ban weapons that are

    1) in common use

    2) not any more dangerous than other weapons

    in other words, semi automatic rifles meet the Heller test for protection

    Where were you during the 1994 - 2004 when they were banned without legal challenge?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Where were you during the 1994 - 2004 when they were banned without legal challenge?
    where were you when Heller and McDonald were passed meaning the moronic court of appeals precedent has gone down the toilet. I specifically noted the Heller test. I guess in your mind that an opinion that was issued several years after the moronic gun ban sunsetted should have been retroactively applied

    hint-read a bit more and your posts won't look so foolish

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    where were you when Heller and McDonald were passed meaning the moronic court of appeals precedent has gone down the toilet. I specifically noted the Heller test. I guess in your mind that an opinion that was issued several years after the moronic gun ban sunsetted should have been retroactively applied

    hint-read a bit more and your posts won't look so foolish

    I would be happy to help you find you an attorney if you need one to challenge the new assault weapons ban.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I would be happy to help you find you an attorney if you need one to challenge the new assault weapons ban.
    its funny-you just get schooled on posting something that demonstrated you were unable to comprehend that Heller's new standards came AFTER the idiotic AWB died and you come back with this idiocy.

    every post you make on this topic continues to demonstrate that your goal is to harass honest gun owners

    btw I find it amusing you bragged about fighting against the cops in your glory days and now you think only cops can be trusted to use 30 or 20 or 15 (or ten or five) round magazines

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