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    Re: Gun Control

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    This is true, but as I stated I was wrong.
    One cannot be WRONG in presenting a definition for a word. You made no error in selecting the proper definition from an authoritative source on the appropriate term being discussed.

    You did just what you were suppose to do and was 100% correct in doing so.

    So pretending otherwise because your own suitable and appropriate definition cause you to lose the debate is dishonest, disingenuous and participating in intellectual fraud trying to get a do-over that you are not entitled to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    To hear you accuse someone else of this is just hilarious, civilian.
    You just did this same thing yesterday but your usage was far more egregious and the hallmark of the worst sort of intellectual fraud imaginable.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-co...post1061281681

    see post 79 to which you had not a single word of a reply or defense

    But if you feel you can show where I did this, please do present your information and stop attacking me personally.

    I will be happy to put up as an equal wager a significant sum of money to you or others if you can show that I engaged in DEFINITION SHOPPING trying to change the agreed upon definition of a term that I myself found the definition for and then attempted to change it when it bit me in the ass. Are you up for that?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Probably 0, but there's always hope.
    You repeatedly expect a honest response, and, repoeatedly, you do not get one.
    What's that they say about insanity? :-)

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    You repeatedly expect a honest response, and, repoeatedly, you do not get one.
    What's that they say about insanity? :-)
    LOL! Well if I'm insane, we know who to blame for it; honestly, he drove me there.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    You repeatedly expect a honest response, and, repoeatedly, you do not get one.
    What about my last ten replies do you find less than honest? Like there is a snowballs chance l of getting you to provide an honest answer to that question

    Since you asked: They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Like you attacking me but pretending to have me on IGNORE and then slinking back to do it again while again pretending to have me on IGNORE and then doing it again while pretending to have me on IGNORE.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What about my last ten replies do you find less than honest? Like there is a snowballs chance l of getting you to provide an honest answer to that question

    Since you asked: They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Like you attacking me but pretending to have me on IGNORE and then slinking back to do it again while again pretending to have me on IGNORE and then doing it again while pretending to have me on IGNORE.
    Boo-hoo. Poor baby.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Boo-hoo. Poor baby.
    I'm sure he'll report you for that.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Except it does not say that. And that sort of incrementalism is a development that is not at all reflected in the finality of the actual definition which applied at the time.
    That's not true, so says SCOTUS.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I for one understand the statistics. But what some seem to be forgetting is that they had different laws from the start and they added onto them. Since in the US you are starting from a different base level, what laws work in other countries will not necessarily have the same affect here.

    In those societies, even before the advent of the gun, swords were restricted in ownership, usually to a "Knight" Class and Noble Classes. When guns came into being, they applied the same restrictions upon them. When dealing with the issue of guns, you have to understand that the other countries have always had some restrictions on the ownership of "weapons" while the US has had very little restrictions upon ownership of "weapons".

    The US is unique in it's attitudes and laws governing ownership of "weapons". Therefore, what works elsewhere will not necessarily work here. Because of our uniqueness in the issue, we have to seek a unique path and solution on the issue.
    It's not widely understood among Americans, but the whole concept of “a ‘Knight’ Class and Noble Classes” is part of what we were utterly rejecting when we founded this nation.

    Under the European concept of nobility, people were born in a vast social hierarchy, which determined which people were better than which other, just by their parentage. At the top of this hierarchy was a king, and below him, several different levels of nobility including knights, dukes, counts, barons, and so on.

    One of the best-known phrases from our Declaration of Independence is the statement that “…all men are created equal…”. What most people don't realize, I think, is that this was a direct repudiation of the European concept of nobility. A king is not better than a duke; a duke is not better than a knight, a knight is not better than a peasant. They are all created equal, and endowed by their creator with the same inalienable rights.

    I'm fairly sure that there is some language in the Constitution which prohibits the federal government or any lower government from granting titles of nobility, and imposes restrictions on Americans accepting any such title granted by a foreign government.


    So, as you point out, in Europe's society, weapons were restricted to upper classes of nobility. As Mao Tse Tsung observed, all power flows from the barrel of a gun. Europe's society was based on the idea that the upper noble classes should have that power over lower classes. In America, there are no such classes, and nobody is to have that sort of power over anyone else. We are all born equal, and as such, we all are equally entitled to access to weapons.
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Here it is for you. Here it is found by you. Here it is posted by you. Here it is agreed to by you. Here it is used by you. Here is it defended by you.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-co...-194-a-31.html

    You selected the definition in our long debate.

    You picked the definition from Meriam Webster.

    You were responsible for it and then it bit you in the butt and you have never gotten over the shame of it and have been trying to atone for your mistake to your fellow true believers in the gun culture ever since. The only problem is that you did not make a mistake. The definition you proved was fine and dandy. And it proved me correct and you wrong.

    Thank you and Merry Christmas.
    Your definition says infringe means to hinder.

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