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    Re: Gun Control

    [QUOTE=lizzie;1061261540]
    It is as important today, as it was 200 years ago, because it is our constitutional right to own and bear arms. It may not be important to you, in your own culture, but it is a part of American culture.
    Regurgitating, verbatim "it is our constitutional right to bear arms" is important, why? It seems the notion is so ingrained you cannot articulate as to what it actually means.

    As I stated earlier, it is not the guns which are the problem. It is the collective psyche of the people making up a society. People who are violent will be violent, regardless of the tools at their disposal.
    Simple question. Do you see any link between violence and guns?

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    The previous ban also only banned imported "assault weapons" not American made ones. No Ak-47 knock offs (as far as I know the actual AK-47 from Kalashnikov, made in Russia, was never legally imported to the US for commercial sale, lots of SKSs, AKSs and AKMs, among others but not real AKs ) but lots of AR-15s and knock offs. No Uzi's or HK MP-5's, but hey, lots of Ingram Arms Mac-10s and -11s.
    Yep.. . . . .

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I quite disagree. The Brady bill was far from a ban, and assault weapons never had a huge following. But there was nothing close to banning all weapons. Congress would never even take up such a notion.
    Connecticut has an AWB in force currently. That didn't stop this murder.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post

    Regurgitating, verbatim "it is our constitutional right to bear arms" is important, why? It seems the notion is so ingrained you cannot articulate as to what it actually means.



    Simple question. Do you see any link between violence and guns?

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    I've already addressed the questions that you keep repeating. If you are unable to understand me, then I'm not sure what to tell you. It's really pretty simple.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Connecticut has an AWB in force currently. That didn't stop this murder.
    Didn't say it would.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Well duh. If they weren't stupid enough to use a gun, then they probably wouldn't of been stupid enough to carry out a massacre.
    Glad you agree!

    You are using the gun and magazine capacity to say that the attempt or completion of a massacre wouldn't or couldn't occur. Really?
    No, I said what I posted above.

    So at around the same time, a nutjob in China didn't attempt something similar with a knife? I think that example alone pretty much disproves any train of thought that guns cause the problem.
    The difference being, in China 22 students were injured. Here, 22 students were killed.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Regurgitating, verbatim "it is our constitutional right to bear arms" is important, why? It seems the notion is so ingrained you cannot articulate as to what it actually means.



    Simple question. Do you see any link between violence and guns?

    Paul
    Out dated or not, it is still the accepted law of the land. As such, it doesn't matter how any of us personally feel about it. Are you arguing for a Constitutional amendment?

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    Re: Gun Control

    Removing guns, is like taking all the blunt objects, in the room away from a rotten child, so he does not hurt anyone. It is does not address why he is rotten. The rotten child will just find any way to be abusive.

    I heard an interest argument for why the school shootings tend to be casued by young white, straight, males.

    In the liberal education system, the indoctrination process has the white straight christian male as the source of all unfairness and evil. Even if you did nothing like that, they have to accept responsibilty for everything in the past that was done to the other demographics At the same time, all the other demographics get special advantages enforced by law. That is a lot of weight to carry, without help, for a young white male.

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    Re: Gun Control

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post

    I've already addressed the questions that you keep repeating. If you are unable to understand me, then I'm not sure what to tell you. It's really pretty simple.
    Lizzie, you've addressed nothing. Simply stating 'it's our constitutional right' when followed through really tells us very little. What are you afraid of ? (supposing you carry).

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    We don't seea lot of massares that "result" from guns either.

    Do you have a link to these "massares" of which you speak?
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