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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Australia was created by much the same immigrant population which created the early USA.
    In that time period, England used Australia as a dumping ground for its criminals and rejects. This may have included a few “traitors” of the sort that otherwise would have come to America and participated in the revolution here, but it was mostly just common thieves, murderers, robbers, and others of that sort. Not “the same immigrant population which created the early USA.”
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't expect the ban to get through the GOP house or even be sustained by lower court judges if it somehow passes
    What makes you think that, since there was not a single legal challenge during the whole decade the ban was in effect?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I did.
    Nope, your reference was about handguns. No one is proposing banning handguns.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    bla, bla, bla...... - that is why the NRA will never sue.
    Great!
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    There is no seriousness in your argument, this is just a bunch of white guys with inadequacies filling a void.
    There's that psychological projection, again, just as we so commonly see from hoplophobes when they lack any better argument. Really, it's turning into a rather ridiculous cliché.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    This is funny, you still are not aware of the discussion and you fail to understand that an AR-15 IS a "machine gun".
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    In that time period, England used Australia as a dumping ground for its criminals and rejects. This may have included a few “traitors” of the sort that otherwise would have come to America and participated in the revolution here, but it was mostly just common thieves, murderers, robbers, and others of that sort. Not “the same immigrant population which created the early USA.”

    Yes - there were indeed differences. But immigrants just the same.

    Religious rebels and political refugees - six of one half dozen of the other in the opinion of the crown some might say.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't expect the ban to get through the GOP house or even be sustained by lower court judges if it somehow passes
    I agree. Anything that would shade the second would likely not be respected or obeyed by many people which would lead to violent skirmishes. This would cause division between the people and the federal government with the sheep siding with the government. It would not end well for the sheep first which would then lead to the current government being overthrown. Even if the government decided to agressively go after the gunnowners not all of the libs are quite stupid enough to not see that they would be next and switch sides.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    People pulling stats out of..... wherever is the sure sign of an intellectual fraud. That should bother you.
    What about people who can't be honest with how they feel about an issue and constantly side track discussions with a lot of stupid distractions and arguments? That really does bother me.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    I agree. Anything that would shade the second would likely not be respected or obeyed by many people which would lead to violent skirmishes. This would cause division between the people and the federal government with the sheep siding with the government. It would not end well for the sheep first which would then lead to the current government being overthrown. Even if the government decided to agressively go after the gunnowners not all of the libs are quite stupid enough to not see that they would be next and switch sides.
    If that anathema comes to happen I will advocate that gun owners target those who pushed for the bans, not the cops. target the politicians and the people who got on TV and whined that guns need to be banned. actors who spoke up in anti gun ads Hysterical soccer moms who wrote letters to the paper. those are the people that are the first proper targets-not those following orders

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