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Thread: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Temporary insanity is just a window into a person that hides their insanity better than others. Hell, my ex has BPD and that is an insanity if ever there was one.
    Well, in all fairness, I was referring to the type of temporary insanity that occurs when a spouse walks in on the other spouse having a sexual relationship with someone else, or a scenario where a mother or father might seek out and kill, or otherwise cause grave injury, to someone who has harmed their child. This is the type of temporary insantiy that I would consider a normal emotional response to extreme stressors.
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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Imo, that is the majority of the problem that we, as a society, are having with this type of behavior. It's in our face so rapidly, that we personalize it, and make it surreal to the point that we panic.
    Agreed. But that is the media doing their job to make money. They sensationalize it. Not all of us buy it but enough do so that the media is not really reporting the news, they are spreading the fear that it could happen to you.
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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, in all fairness, I was referring to the type of temporary insanity that occurs when a spouse walks in on the other spouse having a sexual relationship with someone else, or a scenario where a mother or father might seek out and kill, or otherwise cause grave injury, to someone who has harmed their child. This is the type of temporary insantiy that I would consider a normal emotional response to extreme stressors.
    I know you were. I was just giving an example. I should have just answered with this: Temporary insanity is just a window into a person that hides their insanity better than others.
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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    This guy objectified the children. I doubt he saw them as people and just as objects. That being said... why kill/destroy them? Why do people kill innocent people and then themselves? Why not just themselves? I can see him shooting his mom. There could be all sorts of real or imagined reasons for that... but little children you have never met? This is the rage you discuss so aptly. Jack's point that they have a plan makes sense to though. Why kill themselves in the end? Because they know they don't want to be caught and/or because they want to be a martyr.
    It's really difficult to say why he objectified the children. It could be as simple as his own way of lashing out, because he thought his own childhood was miserable.
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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Agreed. But that is the media doing their job to make money. They sensationalize it. Not all of us buy it but enough do so that the media is not really reporting the news, they are spreading the fear that it could happen to you.
    Yeah, truth be told, we would probably be better off if we'd turn the television off, and stay off the news sites. It's a good thing to keep up with what's going on in the world, but not to fill your head with minute-by-minute drama, and that is what we seem to see nowadays.
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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I see The religious praying at churches and stuff after horrible events like this latest school shooting. They comfort themselves with the idea that "God has a plan". Well, God gave us free will... so the idea that there is a plan kinda makes sense, to a degree. What about the mentally challenged socio-paths that commit crimes like this. Manson, Bundy, this ****tard who killed the beautiful and innocent little children. Can they have free will? They can't, in my opinion. They are ****ed in the head. They can't make rational decisions AT ALL. They don't understand consequences. Many of them lack morals.

    I just wonder because the idea of free will seems to get tossed out the window when it comes to these ****s... so, logically, that shoots a hole in the entire idea that there is ANY free will.

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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yeah, truth be told, we would probably be better off if we'd turn the television off, and stay off the news sites. It's a good thing to keep up with what's going on in the world, but not to fill your head with minute-by-minute drama, and that is what we seem to see nowadays.
    I almost never watch the news. Just the BBC, CNN or FOX to get world news every few days. I prefer Discovery Channel.
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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    If this was god's plan then he is one sadistic ****.
    Yeah. I don't believe in God in the sense that the religious do. The whole idea is twisted and wreaks of control and fear.
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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It's really difficult to say why he objectified the children. It could be as simple as his own way of lashing out, because he thought his own childhood was miserable.
    Yeah. I wish he would have just shot a picture of himself instead though.
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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    To the bolded: I don't necessarily believe that to be the case. People who have reached the point of homocide/suicide, are not rationalizing at that point. They are so miserable that they are lashing out at others, then destroying what they perceive to be the real problem. They are at the point of extreme rage and anger, as they feel that their life is out of control. I think they are desperate for their discomfort to come to an end.
    I think what you say might be true in SOME of these cases but not all. Columbine, for instance, does not seem to follow your line of reasoning but Friday's event very well could.
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