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Thread: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    No. What is it that makes a person choose to react a certain way to his or her circumstances?
    Yes, I really did answer that in the quote.

    Biopsychosocial circumstances makes certain choices harder for people

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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Yes, I really did answer that in the quote.
    No, you really didn't. How a person responds to those circumstances is influenced by what?

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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    No, you really didn't. How a person responds to those circumstances is influenced by what?
    The interplay of biological, social and environmental factors on the bleedin' psyche - "biopsychosocial circumstances".

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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    The interplay of biological, social and environmental factors on the bleedin' psyche - "biopsychosocial circumstances".
    And what control does a person have over those biological, social, and environmental factors that directly influence their decisions?

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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    And what control does a person have over those biological, social, and environmental factors that directly influence their decisions?
    They don't to a certain extent. What has that to do with free will?

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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    They don't to a certain extent. What has that to do with free will?
    Free will, by the strictest definition, cannot exist because one's decisions are not free of outside influences. People choose their actions based on genetic factors, their environment, and other factors beyond their control. Therefore, their decisions are not free but rather interconnected to a myriad of other external causes.

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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Free will, by the strictest definition, cannot exist because one's decisions are not free of outside influences. People choose their actions based on genetic factors, their environment, and other factors beyond their control. Therefore, their decisions are not free but rather interconnected to a myriad of other external causes.
    Is the "strictest definition" something you made up or are you citing something?

    I'm not sure anyone in history has argued against your claimed strictest definition if it exists.

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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Is the "strictest definition" something you made up or are you citing something?

    I'm not sure anyone in history has argued against your claimed strictest definition if it exists.
    What's your definition of free will?

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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    What's your definition of free will?
    Making a choice and accepting you could have made the one not taken.

    I presume by your definition that you believe no one has free will?

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    Re: Do The Mentally Challenged Have Free Will??

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Another clueless post from a person who doesn't understand the difference between mentally ill, psychotic or DD/AI and so forth. And from the tenure of the post does not want to. Just spouting his idiotic self absorb ideas about what happened.

    First the person was probably not mentally ill but Autistic (know the difference?)

    the rest of the post is so deep in horse**** I am surprised he made it out to post this crap. No clue at all just junk.

    I am DD (aspergers syndrome) and like 100% of my fellow Aspies I have morals (maybe more than some people), I have a high IQ (again common), I am a father and husband and was an environmental regulator for 21 years so so much for rational decisions and not understanding conseguences.

    To paraphrase my signature "Either you know this in your bones or you are very very old."
    High IQ? Then why did you miss the part where I specifically said, "socio-paths"?

    I am afraid that I am far out of your league little buddy...

    Not it was intended to be a rant against things you do not understand and may not be able to. If it were asa you say you rant would not have contained so many assinine statements/.

    Gods Plan?
    Is this English? WTF?

    Insanity is a legal term not a psychological one. It has not meaning outside a court of law.
    That is why I used it in a legal manner... seriously. Your IQ is not higher the closer it gets to zero, in case you were confused.
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