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  • Any semi-automatic rifle (fires one shot every time the trigger is pulled)

    14 8.59%
  • A semi-automatic rifle with two or more of the features in the Brady bill.(see OP post)

    17 10.43%
  • A rifle that will keep firing bullets as long as you hold down the trigger.

    117 71.78%
  • A rifle that will fire 3 bullet every time you squeeze the trigger.

    51 31.29%
  • I do not know.

    16 9.82%
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Weird. I need to reread the second amendment as the part about it only applying to muskets isn't in my memory.

    I'll ask you the same thing as our well spoken friend, is free speech limited in the same capacity? Can I look at methods of speech that did not previously exist and say the first amendment has no bearing on them?


    Actually, what about the fourth amendment? The founders couldn't possibly have foreseen the modern suburban household or metropolitan condo.

    (Interestingly enough, pistols existed loooooong before the constitution was signed.)


    Dude, Let's take one thing at a time. You haven't even convinced me yet you are part of a well regulated militia?
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Dude, Let's take one thing at a time. You haven't even convinced me yet you are part of a well regulated militia?
    Well, I'm an able bodied citizen, so yes, I'm part of the militia. That's what that means.

    Nonetheless, the first clause is not restrictive on the second, it does not require one to be a member of the well-regulated militia to have the right to bear arms. Your confusion, of course, is based on your lack of knowledge of common usage back then, and clearly there would be no such distinction between the two.

    Now do you want to address my point or do you have something else to deflect with?
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Well, I'm an able bodied citizen, so yes, I'm part of the militia. That's what that means.
    Who regulates you?
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Who regulates you?
    So that's a yes to more deflection.

    Regulated simply means "in good order." In other words, readily available to serve.

    Again, none of this is relevant because the first clause is not restrictive.
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Well, I'm an able bodied citizen, so yes, I'm part of the militia. That's what that means.

    Nonetheless, the first clause is not restrictive on the second, it does not require one to be a member of the well-regulated militia to have the right to bear arms. Your confusion, of course, is based on your lack of knowledge of common usage back then, and clearly there would be no such distinction between the two.

    Now do you want to address my point or do you have something else to deflect with?

    Who regulates you?

    Its all one sentence, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


    If you want to join the National Guard knock yourself out. That would actually qualify as a well regulated militia!
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Who regulates you?
    That's not what regulated meant.

    Here, let me help you:

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now!
    Regulated simply means "in good order." In other words, readily available to serve.

    Its all one sentence, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
    Yes, absolutely nothing that implies the need to be in the "well regulated militia," in fact, it says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." The people. Not the militia; though these terms were largely synonymous at the time.

    If you want to join the National Guard knock yourself out. That would actually qualify as a well regulated militia!
    No, the national guard is not synonymous with militia.
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    it says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
    As part of a well regulated militia.
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As part of a well regulated militia.
    No, "as part of" is a construct of your agenda, and never appears in the second amendment.
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Actually, it is a rifle.

    The PHALANX (as is it's predecessor) is commonly called a "cannon", but in reality it is a gatling style rifle. It fires closed cartridges with a fixed propellent that is non-explosive (but it is incendiary bursting). And it is fired from a 6-barrel (progressive RH parabolic twist, 9 grooves) electric or hydraulically revolving firing system.

    So yes, it is a rifle.
    Yeah, that's true but I prefer to call it my friend. Much like a red solo cup. It's not just a cup. It's...my...friend.

    Yes the Phalynx. Close in Weapons System. (Or Seawiz <C.I.W.S.> as it is affectionately called.) Shoots around 3000 rounds per minute. Sounds like a chainsaw. It can shoot an incoming target five miles away correcting it's own trajectory and firing until the target is obliterated off the screen. Then it can fire five miles the opposite direction, doing the same, in a matter of seconds.

    You see now why I call this rifle my friend. Uncle Sam wouldn't let me take it home. Certainly we can come up with some legislation that would allow Turtledude to take one home and mount it in the bed of his pick-up truck, no? We should write the NRA.

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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    No, the national guard is not synonymous with militia.
    That's very true. But when I served in the Texas State Guard (a militia,) we worked very closely with the National Guard and often trained with them.

    Then you got your gun nutter, special forces fat wannabe type militias that are preparing for doomsday or Mexicans, or blacks, or commies, or liberals, or whatever words that make their chewing tobacco taste better.

    Then you got your Black Panther militia.

    There are all kinds of militias I suppose. When does a militia cross the fine line from good to bad and start being watched by big brother? I would think there are good and bad militias. But that would depend on who you ask I suppose.
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