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  • Any semi-automatic rifle (fires one shot every time the trigger is pulled)

    14 8.59%
  • A semi-automatic rifle with two or more of the features in the Brady bill.(see OP post)

    17 10.43%
  • A rifle that will keep firing bullets as long as you hold down the trigger.

    117 71.78%
  • A rifle that will fire 3 bullet every time you squeeze the trigger.

    51 31.29%
  • I do not know.

    16 9.82%
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Fair enough. Though most rifle definitions also require the weapon to be shoulder mounted.
    That all depends on who makes it.

    "Rifling" actually describes the lands and groves cut into the barrel itself. This is what diferentiates a Rifle from a Musket.
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Why would 2nd amendment proponents want weapons that are currently legal to be banned?
    Because, as it has been drilled into us for the last several years by the gun fanatics, there are only cosmetic differences between the assault weapons and other weapons that are available legally. Therefore, there is no hardship that can legitimately be claimed by the fanatics now.
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    That all depends on who makes it.

    "Rifling" actually describes the lands and groves cut into the barrel itself. This is what diferentiates a Rifle from a Musket.
    Good point.
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Good point.
    This is part of the problem when discussing firearms. A lot of people simply do not understand them, so throw around all sorts of random garbage, simply because that is the way they believe they should be. I see things like this all the time.

    For example, the mention earlier in this threat about a "double action" revolver being considered "semi-automatic". No, it is not, it is a revolver. A semi-automatic weapon stops when it reaches the Firing phase, and the next trigger pull is what starts the rest of the cycle. In a semi-automatic weapon, the cycle stops at locking. In a machine gun, it stops after cocking.

    And what I am talking about is the "8 cycles of operation". Starting from the beginning, they are:

    Firing (gun goes BANG)
    Unlocking (in non-revolvers, this is unlocking the bolt from the barrel)
    Extracting (pulling the cartridge from the barrel)
    Ejecting (kicking the spent round from the weapon)
    Cocking (moving the hammer so it is prepared to fire again)
    Feeding (pulling a new round out of the magazine)
    Chambering (inserting the round into the barrel)
    Locking (locking the bolt to the barrel, so weapon is ready to fire)

    revolvers ignore/combine several of these, since they have no "chamber", rounds are pre-loaded into the cylinder. So all are seated, there is no ejection, and no bolt is involved to lock. Pulling the hammer back (manually in single action or by trigger squeeze in double action) rotates the cylinder and pulls the hammer back 9cocks the weapon).

    Machine guns are only different in that they fire from the "open bolt", as opposed to rifles, which fire from the closed bolt.
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Because, as it has been drilled into us for the last several years by the gun fanatics, there are only cosmetic differences between the assault weapons and other weapons that are available legally. Therefore, there is no hardship that can legitimately be claimed by the fanatics now.
    Well, I for one am not a "gun fanatic". I own a single pistol (.380), and have no intention of buying any rifle over .22 rimfire.

    So tell me, what are the differences, other then cosmetic? What makes a original issue M1 rifle different then an AR-15? Because by almost all definitions, an M1 is not an "assault rifle", yet an AR-15 is an "assault rifle".

    So please, if the differences are not cosmetic, what are they?
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    See my post above regarding the black market and you will find your precious legal gun dealers are the worst of the lot.
    Do you think the foreign black market would expand should these dealers disappear?

    But I haven't seen a mass murder yet in this country that didn't involve guns. (cue nota bene) Not even Richard Speck.
    Well, I linked one in the post you quoted. I also linked an article about one in China, which is part of an ongoing trend in China, but I guess it's somehow impossible in the US? I don't know.


    Did you know that more people are killed annually in this country from a gun than all the deaths of our soldiers during Vietnam War? Think about that.
    Okay. What point are you making? That the suicide or homicide the gun was involved in wouldn't have occurred if not for the gun?
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Any semi-auto rifle that fires the .223 bullet is an assault rifle and needs to be banned along with that ammo. No more pussyfooting around with the law this time. Simple and to the point.

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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Well, I for one am not a "gun fanatic". I own a single pistol (.380), and have no intention of buying any rifle over .22 rimfire.

    So tell me, what are the differences, other then cosmetic? What makes a original issue M1 rifle different then an AR-15? Because by almost all definitions, an M1 is not an "assault rifle", yet an AR-15 is an "assault rifle".

    So please, if the differences are not cosmetic, what are they?
    One word...AMMO. The military spec .223 bullet the AR-15 used is especially designed to turn it's victims insides into hamburger. It's a killing machine with no recreational use.

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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Well, I for one am not a "gun fanatic". I own a single pistol (.380), and have no intention of buying any rifle over .22 rimfire.

    So tell me, what are the differences, other then cosmetic? What makes a original issue M1 rifle different then an AR-15? Because by almost all definitions, an M1 is not an "assault rifle", yet an AR-15 is an "assault rifle".

    So please, if the differences are not cosmetic, what are they?
    The point is they want you to justify your having it, they don't feel they need to justify taking it away. I've asked for the justification several times and have gotten no relevant answer.
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    Re: What is an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Well, I for one am not a "gun fanatic". I own a single pistol (.380), and have no intention of buying any rifle over .22 rimfire.

    So tell me, what are the differences, other then cosmetic? What makes a original issue M1 rifle different then an AR-15? Because by almost all definitions, an M1 is not an "assault rifle", yet an AR-15 is an "assault rifle".

    So please, if the differences are not cosmetic, what are they?
    This is why the ban is proposed for assault weapons:

    They have a shorter barrel for easy maneuvering in tight spaces, are more accurate, are more powerful ballistically, and they are capable of killing large numbers of without reloading. That is why they are the gun of choice for gangs in the US and Mexico, and to more and more of the mentally deranged.
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