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Thread: In light of today's events

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    Re: In light of today's events

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    this raises the question of how to prevent the violence.
    It can't be prevented, and no matter what you do, there will always be violence. There are only two things anyone can do about it:

    1. Accept that human beings are a violent species of animal, instead of the touchy feely nonsense that all people are inherently good.

    2. Protect you and yours.
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    Re: In light of today's events

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Bring back the 1994 ban on assault weapons that expired in 2004.
    The 1994 ban did not ban any of the weapons used in this case.

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    Re: In light of today's events

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    You cannot love the crazy out of people's heads.
    In a way, one can....
    Prevention
    Love the baby, love the child
    Without these, yes, the child can grow to be way off center, even a murderer....and then it is too late...
    My idea is that only those "on center" can own guns...All others are too great a risk..
    I am too great a risk, and I know it....

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    Re: In light of today's events

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    In a way, one can....
    Prevention
    Love the baby, love the child
    Without these, yes, the child can grow to be way off center, even a murderer....and then it is too late...
    My idea is that only those "on center" can own guns...All others are too great a risk..
    I am too great a risk, and I know it....
    Guns are inanimate objects, tools really, with no magical power. The more the left tries to play them up as evil, the more luring they become to those who would misuse them. I have been so mad I wanted to beat people silly, but the thought of pulling out a gun has never entered my mind, ever. I grew up with them; I own them; I used to hunt with them and will occasionally still target shoot with them. I plan on building a new house out of the urban area I live in now and I know where I will be the police will not be a few minutes away; and packs of coyotes are known to go after pets and animals. They are tools, nothing more.

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    Re: In light of today's events

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    What kind of pistols?
    A Sig and a Glock. I certainly hope you're not going to start talking about "Assault pistols", because there is no such thing by any accepted definition.

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    Re: In light of today's events

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    As of 6:00 PM my time, he used a semi automatic weapon which is an assault weapon.
    A semi-automatic weapon is not an assault weapon. The 1994 assault weapons ban did not ban assault rifles, it banned features on guns that made anti-gun loons piss their panties and it had nothing to do with the effectiveness of the weapon,.
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    Re: In light of today's events

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    As you all have certainly heard there was ANOTHER mass shooting, this time at a elementary school, killing at least 27. This is just one of numerous examples of gun related violence in the news recently. As with any other shooting, this raises the question of how to prevent the violence. Please share your ideas on how to prevent another major incident like this.

    Ps- I would like to express my sadness and deep sorrow about this incident and my thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.
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    Re: In light of today's events

    This needs a sweeping law that helps to deter gun violence. Of course gun violence will happen regardless, but other countries have had success with laws. Here is what I would like see happen:

    -all persons are subject to a mental test before purchasing a gun
    -you may only buy a set amount of guns a year
    -handguns you must be a rifle owner for amount of years with zero violent crimes on record
    -semi automatics banned
    -extended clips banned
    -if caught outside your property with a gun you personally didn't purchase without papers automatic jail time
    -a 5% federal tax over what state taxes may be imposed to fund education and their security on guns
    -teachers drilled on what to do in these situations
    -no concealed weapons on goverenment property regardless of permit.
    -more funding implemented for mental health and education to teachers and parents on warning signs
    -federal offense to sell rated r or rated m material to minors
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    Re: In light of today's events

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    This needs a sweeping law that helps to deter gun violence. Of course gun violence will happen regardless, but other countries have had success with laws. Here is what I would like see happen:

    -all persons are subject to a mental test before purchasing a gun
    -you may only buy a set amount of guns a year
    -handguns you must be a rifle owner for amount of years with zero violent crimes on record
    -semi automatics banned
    -extended clips banned
    -if caught outside your property with a gun you personally didn't purchase without papers automatic jail time
    -a 5% federal tax over what state taxes may be imposed to fund education and their security on guns
    -teachers drilled on what to do in these situations
    -no concealed weapons on goverenment property regardless of permit.
    -more funding implemented for mental health and education to teachers and parents on warning signs
    -federal offense to sell rated r or rated m material to minors
    The thing about your proposal is that its a violation of the 2nd amendment.It is a constitutional right for people to not only keep arms but to bear IE carry them as well without any infringements. .
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: In light of today's events

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    You have some good points... however: It was apparently widely known that this young man had mental and behavioral issues. Given that, it seems to me that someone should have been a bit more on-guard in his case.
    Being on guard, even if someone has clearly identifiable sociopathic neural circuitry, conflicts with being treated equally and fairly with some people here. Having a sociopath with a potential to do harm such as this tragedy in school is alright, and one should not be more on guard, such as observing them a bit more or so, for then they could be stigmatized and treated as secondary citizens, which is not an alright situation. You know someone has to watch out for the rights of sociopaths too.

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