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Thread: Should America follow Mitt Romney's example, and ban assault weapons?

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    Re: Should America follow Mitt Romney's example, and ban assault weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Romney signs off on permanent assault weapons ban / iBerkshires.com - The Berkshires online guide to events, news and Berkshire County community information.

    You will note a few paragraphs in this extended a law adopted in 1998 by the Mass. Legislature,
    and here is a quote from a pro gun advocate:
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    "This is truly a great day for Massachusetts' sportsmen and women," said Senator Stephen M. Brewer. "These reforms correct some serious mistakes that were made during the gun debate in 1998, when many of our state's gun owners were stripped of their long-standing rights to own firearms. I applaud Senate President Travaglini for allowing the Senate to undertake this necessary legislation."
    This still does not change the fact that what Romney did amounts to someone stealing your bread and then pretends to do you a favor by tossing you a few crumbs.




    It should be noted too I believe this legislation was passed by like 87% of their legislature and his veto would have easily been overriden. That aside I wouldn't have signed it, but to use it against Romney as a gun grabber is simply false - a falsehood often spread by libertarians who don't like hardly any laws. The left wing gun owners loved it too. I think it was also safe to say the same concession from him would never have come from our current congress either. Our current congress and the Mass. legislature are quite different.
    Whether or not his veto would have gotten overridden is irrelevant. If he was actually against it then he should have vetoed it.The fact he didn't veto it only proves he supported the ban.
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    Re: Should America follow Mitt Romney's example, and ban assault weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Whats an "assault weapon"?
    Any weapon that makes anti-2nd amendment loons piss their panties.
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    Re: Should America follow Mitt Romney's example, and ban assault weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by evan83 View Post
    Mitt Romney banned assault weapons in Massachusetts. And in 2002, he said he was "no friend to the NRA" and will not "chip away at Massachusett's tough gun laws."
    This is pure hackery, and nothing more. It's obvious this thread was started with the purpose of tweaking conservatives, and you know it. Let's follow Obama's example and extend Bush tax cuts.
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    Re: Should America follow Mitt Romney's example, and ban assault weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Any weapon that makes anti-2nd amendment loons piss their panties.
    By their standards, my little Ruger 10/22 is an assault weapon. The ignorant hoplophobes.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Should America follow Mitt Romney's example, and ban assault weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Actually this is quite false.

    Mitt Romney signed a law in Mass. that reaffirmed existing bans. It banned no new weapons at all. The law actually expanded rights to gun owners and was endorsed by the NRA.
    This is why I said no. Because he didn't someone else did.
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    Re: Should America follow Mitt Romney's example, and ban assault weapons?

    Well I disagree because there is a huge difference between managing an "anti gun" state and a "pro gun" nation. Opposing 87% of the legislature just makes you irrelevant going foreward and getting something
    in return for gun owners was a good thing - even if they were nominal and they appeared to me to be nominal at that.


    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This still does not change the fact that what Romney did amounts to someone stealing your bread and then pretends to do you a favor by tossing you a few crumbs.




    Whether or not his veto would have gotten overridden is irrelevant. If he was actually against it then he should have vetoed it.The fact he didn't veto it only proves he supported the ban.

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    Re: Should America follow Mitt Romney's example, and ban assault weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Well I disagree because there is a huge difference between managing an "anti gun" state and a "pro gun" nation. Opposing 87% of the legislature just makes you irrelevant going foreward and getting something
    in return for gun owners was a good thing - even if they were nominal and they appeared to me to be nominal at that.
    A anti-2nd amendment politcian doesn't change just be he changes office. The fact is Romney signed the assault weapons ban because he supported it.There is no law that says a governor must sign a bill he doesn't want. Governors all over the country veto bills they don't want regardless if those vetoes can or can't be easily overridden.


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    Re: Should America follow Mitt Romney's example, and ban assault weapons?

    Yes, all weapons designed for military use should be banned for civilians to own.
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    Re: Should America follow Mitt Romney's example, and ban assault weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by evan83 View Post
    Mitt Romney banned assault weapons in Massachusetts. And in 2002, he said he was "no friend to the NRA" and will not "chip away at Massachusett's tough gun laws."
    He didnt ban assault weapons. The govt of Mass. barred the sale of firearms which look scary, and made it easier to own firearms that dont look scary. And no, they got the first part wrong. Banning firearms is unconstitutional. Should the US pass an amendment banning firearms that looks scary? Of course not.

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    Re: Should America follow Mitt Romney's example, and ban assault weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by evan83 View Post
    Mitt Romney banned assault weapons in Massachusetts. And in 2002, he said he was "no friend to the NRA" and will not "chip away at Massachusett's tough gun laws."
    I don't think an all-out ban any type of gun is the answer.


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