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    Re: Enlightenend Society

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Then George Bush is off the hook, right?
    Econimies around the world is subject to boom-bust cycles. When you thrive on wars the rocovery could take abt a decade. However, the recovery is imminent.

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    Re: Enlightenend Society

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Democrats would have to learn how to stop spending money like it's going out of style first. So... never.
    The Democrats are the only ones in Congress that voted against spending almost as much as the rest of the world COMBINED on the military.
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    Re: Enlightenend Society

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The Democrats are the only ones in Congress that voted against spending almost as much as the rest of the world COMBINED on the military.
    And then they turn around and vote for lots of other spending. Come on, don't be ridiculous. We're spending tons of money that we cannot afford and at the moment, it's coming from the Democrats.
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    Re: Enlightenend Society

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    How many more years will Democrats need to fix the economy?
    What does this have to do with the concept of an enlightened society?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And then they turn around and vote for lots of other spending. Come on, don't be ridiculous. We're spending tons of money that we cannot afford and at the moment, it's coming from the Democrats.
    Its not just the Democrats, I just told you the Democrats were the only ones that voted against spending over $600 billion next year on the military. A majority of Democrats also voted against the needless Iraq war that cost taxpayers $2 trillion dollars. Name me the last Republican administration that came close to balancing the budget?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its not just the Democrats, I just told you the Democrats were the only ones that voted against spending over $600 billion next year on the military. A majority of Democrats also voted against the needless Iraq war that cost taxpayers $2 trillion dollars. Name me the last Republican administration that came close to balancing the budget?
    Yet they voted for Obamacare which is projected to cost $1.76 trillion in just the first ten years alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yet they voted for Obamacare which is projected to cost $1.76 trillion in just the first ten years alone.
    Nope, Health Care Reform reduces the deficit over the next 10 years:
    CBO Confirms: The Health Care Law Reduces the Deficit | The White House
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    Re: Enlightenend Society

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Nope, Health Care Reform reduces the deficit over the next 10 years:
    CBO Confirms: The Health Care Law Reduces the Deficit | The White House
    Their claims are inaccurate. Forbes has better numbers.
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    Re: Enlightenend Society

    I have been of voting age since Reagan and Charter. I can honestly say I have never seen a Republican or Democrat president fix the economy. I have however seen a couple of Democrats at least balance the budget. I can't say the same for Republicans in my life time. In fact the last Republican president we had spent like a drunken sailor.

    So I don't think anyone can "fix" the economy. They can however balance the budget. I hate to say it but the preponderance of the evidence points to the Democrats being a safer bet. Republicans have not balanced a budget since I think Ike?
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    Re: Enlightenend Society

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The Democrats are the only ones in Congress that voted against spending almost as much as the rest of the world COMBINED on the military.
    We need to maintain our military. Actually we need to greatly improve the average equipment available, it is getting quite old.

    You seem to wish to blame defense for budgeting shortfalls, but all defense spending only comes to about half of average deficits that Obama has been running up. Even if we dropped every penny from the defense budget, our deficit would still exceed, by almost double or mored, the highest deficit under Bush, which occurred when the Dems had control of Congress.

    Can the military be cut some? Sure. But what do we cut? Since it obviously is not the total of our overspending, what else do we cut? What programs have the Dems offered up? Have they offered up spending from other programs to be cut, or only attack Defense and other budgets that the Reps are trying to protect? Compromise cannot come from only one side. Cuts to defense have to be looked at very carefully and not done hodge-podge.

    If the Republicans were to offer up say, $200 billion from defense, would the Dems offer up $200 billion from their chosen pet areas? I guess it is possible, but I haven't seen much evidence of them doing so.
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