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    Re: How many human races exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    There are quite a few human races on the planet, more than 3.

    From the most numerous:
    east asian (chinese, korean, etc)
    South asian (like the indians in india)
    Africans (african americans, east africans, south africans, west africans, central africans)
    Whites (slavs, germanic, latin, basque...
    ... Illiryan, Dardanian...

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    You can include part of the hyspanic population here if you want or you can put them in a whole different race... it is really up to you.
    Arabs (i really don't know here)
    Arboriginals in Australia
    Native americans (from both north america and south america)
    Yeah... I think this sums it about.
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    Re: How many human races exist?

    2 exist.

    Me and then the rest of you lowly peons.
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    Re: How many human races exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    The differences between humans are much smaller. If you put 2 men of different races, arab and east asian, in front of each other, each of them with 1000 candies, 998 of those candies would be the same for each one so that each of those 998 candies can be traded by the arab with the asian and there would be no problems. But both the arab and the asian will have 2 candies that are different from the others'. The asian will have lemon flavor candy and the arab, caramel. Ofc ,this is very simplistic way of looking at it.
    Continuing this analogy.....

    If you took two Arabs (all else being constant with your previously stated analogy) and looked at their candies, they would probably have more than two different candies.

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    Re: How many human races exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    I never said that a single disease affects a race exclusively. But there are certain diseases, genetic and otherwise, that are more prevalent in certain racial groups.
    You did say specific traits though. I think it's possible for any race to produce the whole gamut of obvious phenotypes like eye and hair colours, though extremely rarely.

    Does that make race useless? No. Does it make it entirely arbitrary? No.

    It's a cheap and statistically useful surrogate for genetic heredity, at least until individualised genetic maps are in use in medicine and our knowledge of biological mechanisms are fully developed (the latter of which did and do depend in large part on comparative study of the race model).

    There is an arbitrary component to any grouping mechanism developed by man. This goes for controversies regarding the definition of species and other taxonomic strata. Race just happens to be far more arbitrary.

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    Re: How many human races exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Continuing this analogy.....

    If you took two Arabs (all else being constant with your previously stated analogy) and looked at their candies, they would probably have more than two different candies.
    Yes and no. Depends on the range.

    If you have 2 arabs with 1000 candies each, no candies would be entirely different. Because the differences between people of the same race are not statistically measurable within 0.x%, but rather, with less.

    So if you have 2 arabs with 10.000 candies each, then yes, you will get more than 2 candies of different sortiments. And here you are talking about genes that are unique to each race, that make each race a race basically. So within those 0.1-0.2% differences between races, you have 100% different genes that are unique to a certain race. And out of those, you get a certain % which is common to all members of that race and a % that varies, giving each one of us our uniqueness in all aspects.

    Now. The 99.8% that is common between all human subspecies also varies. To give an example. Height is a gene within that 99.8%. All humans have height. Within the DNA sequence, the gene that determines your height is located in the same place in all human beings. So if it is, lets say, the 5th gene in the DNA, it will be the 5th gene in me, you and everybody else on the planet. And all human beings have it. It just has a different value in it that says that I am 1.8m tall and you are whatever size you are. So this is why the sortiment and candy example is just a basic representation of what I am trying to say. Because if we get down in all the sciency stuff, almost no "candy" is transferrable because each "candy" has a certain information about me. So if I give you the 5th candy in my candy box, you need to give me back the candy at the same position, or else I turn into a a new subspecies that is heightless :P.

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    Re: How many human races exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How many human races are there?
    310,412,687 but I counted the triple crown as 4 races, not 3 as you have to win the 3 to win the 4th

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    Re: How many human races exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    You did say specific traits though. I think it's possible for any race to produce the whole gamut of obvious phenotypes like eye and hair colours, though extremely rarely.

    Does that make race useless? No. Does it make it entirely arbitrary? No.

    It's a cheap and statistically useful surrogate for genetic heredity, at least until individualised genetic maps are in use in medicine and our knowledge of biological mechanisms are fully developed (the latter of which did and do depend in large part on comparative study of the race model).

    There is an arbitrary component to any grouping mechanism developed by man. This goes for controversies regarding the definition of species and other taxonomic strata. Race just happens to be far more arbitrary.
    It is not cheap. calling race cheap is the reason people are still having problems with race. if you don't understand it, you will be ignorant of it and won't be able to accept it. And like all AA groups tell you, acknowledgement and acceptance are the first steps to a healthy way of curing it.

    An unhealthy way of dealing with it is to ignore it, call it a "social construct". The dumbest way to deal with it is to say that there are no races and that there is just 1 race, the human race, instead of correctly identifying it as the human species with different subspecies. But by far the worst way to "cure" the race problem is to cheer for the destruction of the diversity that the the simple fact that humanity has various races. If we would have no races, just 1 race, we would be less than dogs. Dogs have different breeds (races), each with its own unique traits. Well, maybe dogs are bad example because there is no human equivalent to the chiuahua. But rather, humans are more like wolves. There are a great deal of wolf subspecies, each subspecies being different than the other due to the fact that it evolved and grew in a different environment and because of that, the Canidae branch of the animal kingdom is much more interesting.

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    Re: How many human races exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, as I child I was taught "red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight", so I figured there must be four, but when I think of the *human race*, there is only one. Race is essentially the product and result of human migration, and the differences are cultural, rather than color-related.
    The only decent answer to a rather needless/silly question.

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    Re: How many human races exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    That depends on how Mac defines race.

    Until Mac explicitly states his definition of race, it's all a waste of time.
    People tend to confuse race with social or cultural background. Anthropogists recgonize about 5 races as I recall but there are tons or cultures or societies so clarification is necessary
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    Re: How many human races exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    I never said that a single disease affects a race exclusively. But there are certain diseases, genetic and otherwise, that are more prevalent in certain racial groups.
    No, but you said:
    ... each race has certain traits that are unique to it.
    My question is, what traits are unique to different 'races'? I can't think of any.
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