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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Saw this question asked on TV today, and it got me thinking. There are a number of ways that a Santorum campaign would have significantly differed from a Romney campaign, and would have been the "true conservative" the far right was clammoring for. How likely do you think a Santorum win would have been if he had gotten the nomination?
    First off, santorum is far from the "true conservative" definition. He was a fraud, like most of the other "conservatives" who were presented there.

    Second. No, he had no chance because he has:

    a) the face of a pedophile
    b) the charisma and stage prestige of a child who repeated 3rd grade 4times.
    c) no plan what so ever.

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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    First off, santorum is far from the "true conservative" definition. He was a fraud, like most of the other "conservatives" who were presented there.

    Second. No, he had no chance because he has:

    a) the face of a pedophile
    b) the charisma and stage prestige of a child who repeated 3rd grade 4times.
    c) no plan what so ever.
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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    First off, santorum is far from the "true conservative" definition. He was a fraud, like most of the other "conservatives" who were presented there.

    Second. No, he had no chance because he has:

    a) the face of a pedophile
    b) the charisma and stage prestige of a child who repeated 3rd grade 4times.
    c) no plan what so ever.
    How do you define "true conservative" and who do you think is a true conservative alternative?
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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How do you define "true conservative" and who do you think is a true conservative alternative?
    Huntsman seemed to be the closest to a true conservative in modern times. Ron Paul is a libertarian, and although libertarianism has the conservative side of economics, it is the liberal social policies that stretch his definition. But he is a conservative too.

    I just want to point out that you are the one who used in the OP the term "true conservative". I was just pointing out that said term is incorrect here. Why? Because republican =/= conservative. These are not interchangeable terms.

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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    I voted for Santorum in the primary but he would have lost to Obama in the general.

    What Republicans don't seem to realize is their biggest problem is making enemies out of large voting blocks by vilifying them both during the campaigns and thanks to the pundits,talk radio hosts and bloggers; all the time campaign or not. Its going to be impossible for any candidate to gain the support of voters if the political culture of the side they represent is making them out to be horrible people who are the problem with the country. In the case of Santorum, he essentially drove younger female voters, their male companions and relatives and some older female votes away from the GOP. I personally think his impassioned position on contraceptive coverage along with Rush Limbaugh's slut designation and the rape positions by GOP candidates for other offices painted a picture of the GOP in a broader sense that hurt Mitt Romney by party association, let alone if Santorum himself had won the nomination. Sorry but you cannot win the Whitehouse with just middle-ages and older white males who own their own businesses.
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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I voted for Santorum in the primary but he would have lost to Obama in the general.

    What Republicans don't seem to realize is their biggest problem is making enemies out of large voting blocks by vilifying them both during the campaigns and thanks to the pundits,talk radio hosts and bloggers; all the time campaign or not. Its going to be impossible for any candidate to gain the support of voters if the political culture of the side they represent is making them out to be horrible people who are the problem with the country. In the case of Santorum, he essentially drove younger, their male companions and relatives and some older female votes away from the GOP. I personally think his impassioned position contraceptive coverage along with Rush Limbaugh's slut designation and the rape positions by GOP candidates for other offices painted a picture of the GOP in a broader sense that hurt Mitt Romney by party association, let alone if Santorum himself had won the nomination. Sorry but you cannot win the Whitehouse with just middle-ages and older white males who own their own businesses.
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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Huntsman seemed to be the closest to a true conservative in modern times. Ron Paul is a libertarian, and although libertarianism has the conservative side of economics, it is the liberal social policies that stretch his definition. But he is a conservative too.

    I just want to point out that you are the one who used in the OP the term "true conservative". I was just pointing out that said term is incorrect here. Why? Because republican =/= conservative. These are not interchangeable terms.
    You have not defined what a true conservative is to you. In using the term in the OP, I am referring to what several on this board have referred to. As a liberal it is probably best if I do not try and define the term for conservatives.
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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Saw this question asked on TV today, and it got me thinking. There are a number of ways that a Santorum campaign would have significantly differed from a Romney campaign, and would have been the "true conservative" the far right was clammoring for. How likely do you think a Santorum win would have been if he had gotten the nomination?
    Santorum would have gone for the jugular... and Obama's was sitting there like a pulsating elephant trunk.
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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You have not defined what a true conservative is to you. In using the term in the OP, I am referring to what several on this board have referred to. As a liberal it is probably best if I do not try and define the term for conservatives.
    I don't think such a tight definition in this day and age can be made for anyone but your most partisan hacks on either side. I mean most of us just like progressives are shades ranging from fiscal/social to just fiscal and everything in between. I mean you go from fascist to bat**** insane, lol.
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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I don't think such a tight definition in this day and age can be made for anyone but your most partisan hacks on either side. I mean most of us just like progressives are shades ranging from fiscal/social to just fiscal and everything in between. I mean you go from fascist to bat**** insane, lol.
    I understand this, but the recurring theme among some of(far from all) conservative posters was that Romney was not a conservative and if a "true conservative" had run things would have been different.
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