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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I don't think liberals hated him. I think they were amused by him. I'm not a liberal, though I am an anti-conservative, and I found him incredibly entertaining, though not to his benefit.
    I might be a new comer to Republican politics, but his approach just sounded asinine. I know Independents yammer on about the "turd" politicians that are our leaders, but I couldn't in a million years consider them able to pull the trigger on such a political outsider, whereas a certain segment of Republican voters wouldn't hesitate for a moment in order to vote for Cain. It's just a travesty.
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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I might be a new comer to Republican politics, but his approach just sounded asinine. I know Independents yammer on about the "turd" politicians that are our leaders, but I couldn't in a million years consider them able to pull the trigger on such a political outsider, whereas a certain segment of Republican voters wouldn't hesitate for a moment in order to vote for Cain. It's just a travesty.
    Most "independents" who rage against 'Establishment politicians' in such a way are Tea Partiers who dislike associating with the Republican Party. This might sound counterintuitive, but the polling in the last election bore it out: the reason Romney was racking up such massive margins among "independents" was because they were Republicans in all but name.

    To an actual independent - I voted for Gary Johnson in this last election, and wrote a name in the one before it - there was nothing remotely appealing about Herman Cain as a real, living, breathing candidate. His rhetoric was boilerplate and hyperpartisan; the only thing remotely endearing was just how damn cute it all was, citing the Pokemon theme in his exit speech and all.

    The fact that a segment of the Republican base took him at all seriously as a legitimate contender speaks very poorly of the state of the modern Republican Party. And I suspect there was a base motive at work - the desire for political (and especially racial) cover, to be able to say "see? we're not the bigoted ones here". It didn't work because Cain didn't win the nomination, but you saw some of this in Allen West's defeat, along with constant reminders about how Democrats were really the Party of slavery, once-upon-a-time-ago.

    EDIT: Had Cain won the nomination, or Bachmann or Perry or Santorum or anyone but Romney or Huntsman, it wouldn't have been very difficult for me or most other legitimate independents to pull the lever for Obama.
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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    My actual answer is just a "No."

    The only truly viable candidates, imho, were Gingrich and Paul,

    both of whom could have actually effected the changes that would have "saved" America,

    with their intimate knowledge of all of the inner workings of our gov,
    as well as their scholarship concerning our Constitution.

    One got labeled an alzeheimer'ed out weird-o;
    the other, ...

    He was "good enough" to be third in line for the presidency,

    but we'd rather have Boozy-Biden, the exemplar of ...
    alchieness, with no redeeming stoneredness.

    ummm...

    What was the question, again?


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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by fyrenza View Post
    The only truly viable candidates, imho, were Gingrich and Paul,

    Another Gingrich supporter. Funny. Have you seen what Gingrich has said about 2016 and the republicans? Makes me lol.....and I'm in no way a supporter of the Democraps.

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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Romney was suspect from day one.

    RomneyCare in Mass sound like a good leg to stand on in the Universal Health Care arena?

    His knack of being for, against AND undecided on pretty much ANY given issue
    lent him the opportunity to appear as though he were still mulling it all over, whatever "it" was,
    and would follow the will of the peeps.

    He actually said that THAT was how RomneyCare came to be ~
    the peeps WANTED it, so he did his best to give them something viable.

    My own personal feelings about the man have to do with his credibility, and credulity,
    concerning a religion which is nothing more than a cult,

    but the GOP KNEW that that would be one of the stumbling blocks,

    with Paul, Santorum AND Romney.

    WTF do you think that these mormons have been presented to us for consideration?

    And we're offered THREE to choose from ...

    Gee. Is the USA sort of known for anything?
    Perhaps being CHRISTIAN?
    Maybe being based upon Christian principles?

    WHO is the GOP's "base?"

    Mid-America? The Bible belt?

    Paul, with his rock solid belief in our founding principles,
    as well as founding PAPERS, i.e. our constitution,

    had to be discredited, imho.

    His stance on gov ~
    their reach,
    their power,
    their ability to oversee and control ~

    made it ... oops. bathroom/toke break

    ANY of the candidates.

    Were ANY of them viable???

    Or were they just propped up, there,
    for all to throw rotten tomatoes at?

    We got rooked,

    big time.

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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Why is it that lunatic fringers are incapable of typing properly?
    I dip my forefinger in the watery blood of your impotent mad-redeemer (your Divine Democrat — your Hebrew Madman) and write over his thorn-torn brow, “The true prince of Evil — the king of the Slaves!”
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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    I think the far right wing is dying, and the tea party brought this death about even more quickly. Santorum would have lost even by even more. Romney was an attempt to swing a bit left. Fail.
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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Why is it that lunatic fringers are incapable of typing properly?
    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I think the far right wing is dying, and the tea party brought this death about even more quickly. Santorum would have lost even by even more. Romney was an attempt to swing a bit left. Fail.
    Y'all seem to be in the same camp.

    Why don't you tell me?

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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by fyrenza View Post
    Y'all seem to be in the same camp.

    Why don't you tell me?
    Me? I'm just a libertarian who's sick to death of the Republican Party and wish it would shuffle off this mortal coil posthaste. Alas, one can dream.
    I dip my forefinger in the watery blood of your impotent mad-redeemer (your Divine Democrat — your Hebrew Madman) and write over his thorn-torn brow, “The true prince of Evil — the king of the Slaves!”
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    Re: Would Santorum Have Beaten Obama?

    You making fun of my typing?
    Quote Originally Posted by fyrenza View Post
    Y'all seem to be in the same camp.

    Why don't you tell me?
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