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    Re: world federation

    Quote Originally Posted by hashmann View Post
    If she is really symbolic, what is the point of having her .... why don't we get rid of her?
    From Monarchy.net:

    A Summary of some of the many benefits of our modern constitutional monarchy
    Our modern Constitutional Monarchy gives us a Queen who is:

    an impartial symbolic Head of State above politics, commercial and factional interests
    a focus for national unity, national awards and honours and national institutions
    a Head of State whom we share with 16 other independent countries because she is their Queen too and that links us all together amazingly and most valuably
    the Head of the Commonwealth because all 53 countries recognise her as this and so she is a special unifying symbol for them too
    the centrepiece of colourful non-political ceremonial and national celebrations
    separate from the Head of Government (the Prime Minister), unlike in some countries where the two are combined, often with difficulty
    able to give impartial non-political support to the work of a wide range of different types of organizations, faiths, charities, artists, craftsmen etc
    a Head of State completely under the democratic control of Parliament but not having to change every few years in divisive elections
    at the head of a Royal Family who can share the duties and represent the Queen
    a constant, lasting symbolic head of the country with links back through our whole history and assured lines of continuity into the future
    a worldwide well-known and respected symbol of our country carrying out State Visits and goodwill tours in other countries

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    Re: world federation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    None of those. All of those dont sound very good to me.
    Indeed, with the possible exception of Capitalist Democracy (depending on how capitalist).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saykine View Post
    From Monarchy.net:

    nice ...
    how about the fact that williams son or daughter will be the next symbolic head?

    screw that .... I want to be the symbolic head!
    can I run for that position?
    why does it have to be heriditary?

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    Re: world federation

    Quote Originally Posted by Saykine View Post
    Indeed, with the possible exception of Capitalist Democracy (depending on how capitalist).

    capitalism is going to create losers in the economy
    there are people that do not have the capital or the skill set to succeed in the competitive economy
    there will be crime, prostitution and violence
    not to mention the fact that we won't be able to combat war or poverty

    the world federated communist republic will solve these problems!

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    Re: world federation

    Quote Originally Posted by hashmann View Post
    capitalism is going to create losers in the economy
    there are people that do not have the capital or the skill set to succeed in the competitive economy
    there will be crime, prostitution and violence
    not to mention the fact that we won't be able to combat war or poverty

    the world federated communist republic will solve these problems!
    Kid, I really don't want to stamp on your enthusiasm and interest in politics, but you really do need to educate yourself on the very basic principles of political theory. I'd suggest a primer such as this...

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Introduction...5169700&sr=8-3
    "The crisis will end when fear changes sides" - Pablo Iglesias Turrión

    "Austerity is used as a cover to reconfigure society and increase inequality and injustice." - Jeremy Corbyn

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    Re: world federation

    Quote Originally Posted by hashmann View Post
    I recently read something from the MIT courseware .... utilitarianism .... it means that the government will structure policy so that it benefits the greater ....
    we just need to trust the government ... what is the other option?

    war in all the Arab countries?
    economic failure in the US and EU
    Humanity's progression is inevitable, but, he must not progress too fast and leave others and other things behind..
    Unfortunately, we need the conservatives..
    Yes, we should trust our government, but, has our government earned the trust ???
    We do need far more involvement in government...

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    Re: world federation

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Humanity's progression is inevitable, but, he must not progress too fast and leave others and other things behind..
    Unfortunately, we need the conservatives..
    Yes, we should trust our government, but, has our government earned the trust ???
    We do need far more involvement in government...
    how do you suggest 7 billion people get more involved in government?
    it is pragmatic to allow the few to govern

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    Re: world federation

    Quote Originally Posted by hashmann View Post
    capitalism is going to create losers in the economy
    there are people that do not have the capital or the skill set to succeed in the competitive economy
    there will be crime, prostitution and violence
    not to mention the fact that we won't be able to combat war or poverty

    the world federated communist republic will solve these problems!
    For capitalism to be successful, the level of education must be raised...
    college level education for all....????
    Anything forced on the people will NOT work....
    Hashmann, we have taken the first voluntary step of 100 toward "communism" or a utopia, ..give 50 to 100 years per step....

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    Re: world federation

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    For capitalism to be successful, the level of education must be raised...
    college level education for all....????
    Anything forced on the people will NOT work....
    Hashmann, we have taken the first voluntary step of 100 toward "communism" or a utopia, ..give 50 to 100 years per step....
    I would like to see doctoral degree holders in my economy
    the only problem is that the capitalist economy will not allow for people to pursue studies
    in the capitalist economy, employment and a mortgage are forced on the people
    either forced employment or steal and prostitute to get your piece of the bread

    what do you mean we have taken the first step?

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    Re: world federation

    Involvement in government
    voting
    conversing with government officials
    Here, they must cooperate, and I see too little of this.
    being knowledgible.....a toughie today, this means, IMO, turning off the radio and TV and reading instead..
    voting
    Right now, the real participation may be as low as 10%....for intelligent voting....or protesting.....a much lower rate.....
    Egypt and Syria seem to be doing OK, participation-wise...
    On this forum, what is it, one billion possible and one out of 100000 participating ?
    voting

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