View Poll Results: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?

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Thread: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Don't worry.....I think that only about .00000001% of gays own assless chaps.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's not the point I was making at all. It's the idea that some customs and things about marriage DO mean something to some people, and those people are not any less important than any other group of people, so they should also have some protections. The option of civil union for those who are unhappy with any aspect of marriage as it exists could use that option.
    The ONLY required marriage custom is filling out a form with the government. Vows, ceremony, etc are dependent of the couple.
    The only custom that could have any effect on everyone else is changing the government form, which actually has no real effect on your marriage customs.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    As it stands now, yes, and I want to protect those rights so that no one can ever have any kind of terms eliminated or other such scenarios.
    1st amendment protects those customs. See problem is already solved.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    1st amendment protects those customs. See problem is already solved.
    Civil unions should still be offered for those who don't want all that comes with a typical marriage. Don't you think? And civil unions should offer all the same benefits that a marriage would.

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Really I'm at a loss as to why people are so upset that I want to offer a choice instead of one or the other.

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    you don't even have to have a wedding. get the license and hit the JOP. does it really matter what you call it as long as all the benefits are the same? "a rose by any other name would smell as sweet....."
    Yes, it matters. Separate but equal has never worked before. Besides, why spend the money to rewrite every law that mentions marriage, change every govt form that mentions marriage, etc. Just to create a replica of something that is already exists in the law.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    That is your right. You will be proven wrong in the long run . . . but you have a right to feel the way you do. As long as women are willing, gay men can have babies. As long as men are willing, gay women can have babies. You gotta love science . . . God gave it to us. In fact he gave us the brains to create a science called "Biology". Which you now seem to be trying to cite to stop 2-people who love each other from marrying. No one wants to marry a horse and the slippery slope you perceive does not exist in the mainstream . . . gays do though. They have been here since the beginning of civilization. they're here, they're queer . . . it would be ever so nice if you could get use to it.
    Neither gays nor lesbians can have babies inside the union that they are fighting us for. What an excellent point that you have just made for the opponents of gay "marriage". And another fine example of the inferiority of the concept of "gay" marriage.

    As far as the "slippery slope"...not so long ago the sentiment that "no one wants to marry someone of the same gender" would have been as absurd as your "marry a horse" comment, yet here we are.

    I admit that I appear to be on the losing side of this issue, but keep in mind that this alone does not make a thing any less wrong or destructive to the society.

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I'm fine with gay marriage as long as the groom doesn't insist on wearing assless pants during the ceremony
    If you're not invited to the ceremony, would you ever know?
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    Yes, it matters. Separate but equal has never worked before. Besides, why spend the money to rewrite every law that mentions marriage, change every govt form that mentions marriage, etc. Just to create a replica of something that is already exists in the law.
    Separate option for those who are not happy with some terms of marriage so they don't have to protest and make things difficult for everyone else if it ever came to that. Offering a civil union would take care of those people too.

    Edit: Oops! I must be getting tired. I said public option instead of civil union.

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Civil unions should still be offered for those who don't want all that comes with a typical marriage. Don't you think? And civil unions should offer all the same benefits that a marriage would.
    No, civil unions already exist as a different union. My grandmother had a civil union after her first husband died to protect her assets. Civil unions have different ruled for a reason.
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