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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Can a Man marry multiple women? NO

    Can two family members marry? NO

    These groups of consensual adults do not have equal rights to other consensual adults.

    This all comes down to you and the government having NO PLACE defining who can participate in a marriage! Because it is subjective.
    NOBODY can marry multiple people.
    NOBODY can marry family members.

    NO CONSENSUAL ADULTS can marry multiple people or family members genius LMAO

    and thats why your example fails because they factually do have the same rights LOL
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    they do have the same rights thats why you fail
    Another thing why this argument fails again...

    When Gay men had marriage banned.

    They still had the "same" rights as every other male. It just wasn't to their liking, because two consensual adults have a right to have a marriage contract with whoever they want too, because it ought to be equal for EVERYONE!

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    NOBODY can marry multiple people.
    NOBODY can marry family members.

    NO CONSENSUAL ADULTS can merry multiple people or family members genius LMAO

    and thats why your example fails because they factually do have the same rights LOL
    AGAIN,

    when marriage was banned

    NOBODY could marry the same sex.

    you keep using this same failed argument... IT DOESNT WORK, try something else that you haven't had shot down

    "NO CONSENSUAL ADULTS can marry multiple people or family members genius LMAO", I am not debating whether they can or can't.... I am debating whether they should have an equal rights too or not.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post

    they dont fit because they arent being denied anything, they are already equal under the law if we are talking about family members
    Gay people were also, "equal", under the law. They were allowed to marry anyone from the opposite sex... which was the same for everyone.

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Another thing why this argument fails again...

    When Gay men had marriage banned.

    They still had the "same" rights as every other male. It just wasn't to their liking, because two consensual adults have a right to have a marriage contract with whoever they want too, because it ought to be equal for EVERYONE!
    but not every other female maybe youll finally catch on to this common sense and by granting that EVERYONE would have equal rights.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    AGAIN,

    when marriage was banned

    1.)NOBODY could marry the same sex.

    2.)you keep using this same failed argument... IT DOESNT WORK, try something else that you haven't had shot down

    3.)"NO CONSENSUAL ADULTS can merry multiple people or family members genius LMAO", I am not debating whether they can or can't.... I am debating whether they should have an equal right too or not.
    yes but men could marry women and women cant
    its not failed at all you simply arent educated on the subject enough to get it LOL its a FACT whether you agree or not it works perfectly and facts and history still prove that you have said NOTHING to change that lol
    3.) it wouldnt be an EQUAL right then if nobody can do it LMAO

    and this is exactly why you have no clue what equal rights are, if nobody has that right now nobody is being denied anything and thats not fight for equality LOL

    WOW this is sooo funny
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    please elaborate... or I'm afraid you have nothing to contribute to the discussion...
    No need to elebrorate, it was explained perfectly and I don't have time for ignorance and games, sorry buddy I'll just watch you continue to get beatdown.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    but not every other female maybe youll finally catch on to this common sense and by granting that EVERYONE would have equal rights.
    Yes, they did... the law was that you could marry the opposite sex... this was "equal" for everyone. If you confront this I will return to my previous arguments that demonstrate there is ALSO an inequality between consensual adults.

    Do you think discrimination can only be done when the groups in question are defined by our culture? Polygamist are a group of people. People who want to use marriage purely for the benefits, are a group of people (this is the category I place the family members in). And when you make a certain groups of people unable to obtain the same rights as others, than this is an inequality and is discrimination against said people.

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by O_Guru View Post
    No need to elebrorate, it was explained perfectly and I don't have time for ignorance and games, sorry buddy I'll just watch you continue to get beatdown.
    Hardly, but I am amused how you proved again how useless your posts are in this thread...

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    its not failed at all you simply arent educated on the subject enough to get it LOL its a FACT whether you agree or not it works perfectly and facts and history still prove that you have said NOTHING to change that lol
    again, we are at the point in the discussion where history has very little to do with it.

    What subject do you think i am not educated in? I can tell how you are not educated in logic and philosophy, because you are making logical fallacies all over the place. Not saying I haven't, but I have not noticed one yet and It would be great if you can point one out for me, cause then we may start actually being constructive if you actually know how arguments work.

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