View Poll Results: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    Actually the second AND the third.

    Marriage laws have changed repeatedly since the first laws were put in place.
    Not the actual definition... this is incorrect. The perks and laws around rights have changed, but the definition has stayed the same. And the first definition is the one that describes the one that has been used, and the other two arn't specific, but generic definitions like walking: to walk. ALl your trying to do is just throw out "GOTCHYAS", but they arn't working and don't contribute to the conversation.

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Your post I was referring to said nothing about the US. Regardless. There are plenty of churches here that would marry gay people even if the word "marriage" were left to religion alone.
    Im not concern with the churches I am concern with the definition of marriage. Current churches can't redefine what marriage means in law. AND it's unconstitutional to have religious unions be recognized by government.

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Your post I was referring to said nothing about the US. Regardless. There are plenty of churches here that would marry gay people even if the word "marriage" were left to religion alone.
    And I ask you again, you are labeling this thing called marriage in our government... Why?

    You are playing favorites, why can't anyone enjoy benefits between any two or more consenting adults? Who is the government and who are you to define what is a relationship that is viable to have these perks?

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Government should not be involved in any sort of marriage. Nothing. Civil Unions should be used for homosexual or heterosexual couples only for tax purposes. Marriage should be left where it started...the churches.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Not the actual definition... this is incorrect. The perks and laws around rights have changed, but the definition has stayed the same. And the first definition is the one that describes the one that has been used, and the other two arn't specific, but generic definitions like walking: to walk. ALl your trying to do is just throw out "GOTCHYAS", but they arn't working and don't contribute to the conversation.
    Try the new edition of Blacks law dictionary. It includes SSM too.

    Words change meaning over time. Besides, I'm not redefining YOUR marriage, you can still consider marriage as only between a man and his bought and paid for property if you choose. What you think of my marriage has no meaning to me.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    Try the new edition of Blacks law dictionary. It includes SSM too.

    Words change meaning over time. Besides, I'm not redefining YOUR marriage, you can still consider marriage as only between a man and his bought and paid for property if you choose. What you think of my marriage has no meaning to me.
    refer to my post 323. And I disagree, you should not redefine the word, because at the very least it is a cultural niche... and you should not play favorites on cultural norms... you should make everything civil unions.

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    refer to my post 323. And I disagree, you should not redefine the word, because at the very least it is a cultural niche... and you should not play favorites on cultural norms... you should make everything civil unions.
    I'm fine with making all govt recognized marriages into civil unions, but that won't fly with most of the country. It would also be more costly, as every law that mentions marriage would have to be rewritten.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    And I ask you again, you are labeling this thing called marriage in our government... Why?

    You are playing favorites, why can't anyone enjoy benefits between any two or more consenting adults? Who is the government and who are you to define what is a relationship that is viable to have these perks?
    I have no problem with government getting out of the marriage business altogether and leave gay marriage or straight marriage to churches.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    I'm fine with making all govt recognized marriages into civil unions, but that won't fly with most of the country. It would also be more costly, as every law that mentions marriage would have to be rewritten.
    Not exactly, just make an act that civil Unions benefit from every law in which marriage is mentioned.

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Im not factually wrong the marriage laws in this country have been modeled after the christian definition of marriage. It should never of happened, but it did.
    your statement was factual wrong, if you would now like to add qualifiers and say something different thats fine, what you previously stated was factually wrong
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