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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    When the marriage laws were in place, the very definition of marriage was between a man and a women. That was the meaning of the word. Look it up in a dictionary right now and it will say the same thing. Marriage - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    All the perks in marriage of today is based on the Christian definition of marriage and family. The perks were engineered specifically for it.

    Why, if you are redefining it do you choose all the same perks? Why can't more then one person? borthers and sisters? Why play favorites with only this kind of relationship?

    The current form of marriage DID play favorites in every aspect of it. If you truly wanted it to be equal you should make these benefit's available to any two or more persons. And only the term civil union accurately describes this, because the term marriage is a very specific thing.
    Really? Where is the bible does it talk about tax breaks for being married? Or is that not a perk?
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    I keep seeing posts that seem to say, "If Civil Unions are the same thing, then what's the big deal?"

    I agree . . . from now on there should be no more marriage for heterosexuals . . . they too should accept Civil Unions . . . after all, it's the same thing.

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Really? Where is the bible does it talk about tax breaks for being married? Or is that not a perk?
    There shouldn't be tax breaks for being married, since that is preferential treatment.

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Drop the term marriage in government. And make it all civil unions. This is the only position I would advocate. I would disapprove of gay relationships being called "marriage" because I think the term marriage is a religious term ALWAYS meaning between a man and a women. Since it is a religious term, it has no place in government. You simply can't change a religious definition into a non religious definition by law.

    I would also disapprove two individuals not being able to get the same benefits as the current married couples do.

    In this set up, I do not see why anyone couldn't get a civil union... even brother and sister, borther and brother, friend and friend, gay lover and gay lover. It is not the governments job to declare what is a relationship and what isn't.
    I hate to break it to you....but even if you make the word "marriage" a "religious" term....there are plenty of churches willing to marry gay men and gay women. And...btw....you need to read up on your religion. Marriage has had many definitions over the years and has not always meant between a man and a woman.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    There shouldn't be tax breaks for being married, since that is preferential treatment.
    Whether there should be or not is irrelevant. It is one of literally hundreds and hundreds of federal benefits of being married, and those benefits are not based on religion.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    From your link.
    Yea, you had to go to the third definition... do you think that existed when the marriage laws were in place?

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Really? Where is the bible does it talk about tax breaks for being married? Or is that not a perk?
    Nowhere... and I didnt say it did. All the perks in marriage are based on the traditional thought of the happy christian family. It wasn't based on a polygomy, it wasn't based on two gay couples, it wasn't based on a open relationship, it wasn't based on a muslim marriage, it wasn't based on some random cults idea of marriage, nor a friendship, or family tie, it wasn't based on any other possible relationship BUT the traditional christian marriage. This is something you can't really deny. And why didn't you answer any of my questions?

    Im not even christian myself, but this is something so obvious. All you guys seem to want to do is rub it in Christians faces.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I hate to break it to you....but even if you make the word "marriage" a "religious" term....there are plenty of churches willing to marry gay men and gay women. And...btw....you need to read up on your religion. Marriage has had many definitions over the years and has not always meant between a man and a woman.
    No, in the U.S. it has always meant between a man and a women... No matter how much you wish it not be true, this is the facts. And why didn't you answer any of my questions?

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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    No, in the U.S. it has always meant between a man and a women... No matter how much you wish it not be true, this is the facts.
    Your post I was referring to said nothing about the US. Regardless. There are plenty of churches here that would marry gay people even if the word "marriage" were left to religion alone.
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    Re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Yea, you had to go to the third definition... do you think that existed when the marriage laws were in place?
    Actually the second AND the third.

    Marriage laws have changed repeatedly since the first laws were put in place.
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