View Poll Results: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?

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  • Yes, civil unions are an acceptable compromise.

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    55 52.38%
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    25 23.81%
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Thread: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The majority of Americans (53%) support same-sex marriage.
    Yes, right now people support gay marriage because of equality issues (myself included), but keep pushing your politically correct innuendo, and you will soon see a major drop-off in that kind of support because it just sounds like you have bitterness issues.

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    What matters is the makeup of each state since states issue marriage licenses and regulate it. 90% of people in New York could approve SSM but if 60% in Texas do not then we shouldn't expect the beliefs of New Yorkers to dictate how Texas handles marriage.
    It doesn't matter to me anymore than it would for interracial marriage. If the majority of people in a state are against same-sex marriage because they feel entitled to a word, then they are the problem. Equating entitlement to a word to wanting to be treated equally as you did is dishonest.

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    What matters is the makeup of each state since states issue marriage licenses and regulate it. 90% of people in New York could approve SSM but if 60% in Texas do not then we shouldn't expect the beliefs of New Yorkers to dictate how Texas handles marriage.
    Loving v. Virginia

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It doesn't matter to me anymore than it would for interracial marriage. If the majority of people in a state are against same-sex marriage because they feel entitled to a word, then they are the problem. Equating entitlement to a word to wanting to be treated equally as you did is dishonest.
    Duh!!! Again, it has nothing to do with the word but the concept of marriage. Get it yet? Or should I post that a couple of more times?

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    That our government should NOT be involved in "marriage" sounds good, even great.. But man (most of us) has a brain and he must use it. The marriage is very much a legal contract between people, or a man and a woman ( as I prefer), and because of this, government MUST be involved.
    So, lets break marriage into two parts , one the contract between two or more parties and two, the religious end of things...the vows and the ceremony. The homosexuals can be "united as one" by city hall (whatever that is , I am a country boy) and the more fortunate can have both ( one and two), automatically..... And the "gays" can also have both if they can find a "gay" church....
    No religious institution should be forced into any part of this, but, our government is a different story ...They have a duty, a responsibility, to the people, ALL OF THE PEOPLE !
    The vote was "other".

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    I'm all for equality, but I am certainly NOT for specific groups getting "special privileges" such as being able to change the wording on marriage certificates because of . . . . ??? I don't even know why.

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Gays have as much a right to a religious ceremony as anyone else. Thus, no, "civil" union is not the same.

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    If they want to change the concept of marriage to suit them, then I would vote for civil unions. That way everyone gets what they want. If they want a "marriage" then that is fine too, but if they want some special considerations, then civil unions it is. And NO marriage is NOT just a contract between 2 people. It is MUCH more than that.

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    So no more wife and husband...lol...ok
    Yes and no

    No more "Wife and Husband" in a LEGAL sense

    There's nothing stopping the words from being used in a soceital/cultural/private enterprise sense what so ever.

    Just like the word marriage wouldn't magically vanish simply because the government doesn't call it a marriage anymore. Those that want to call themselves "married" still could, those that want to get "married" in the eyes of their church still can, etc.

    Just like today a gay couple can still call themselves "Husband" or "wife" and "married" even if the state doesn't recognize it, they just can't say it in a legal fashion.

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Gays have as much a right to a religious ceremony as anyone else. Thus, no, "civil" union is not the same.
    Sure they do, until they want to change it suit them. Then, instead of changing it for everyone else, they should be unselfish and go for civil unions.

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