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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think the best compromise is to remove the term "marriage" from the books, changing it to "civil unions", and allow it to be entered into by any two consenting adults.
    So no more wife and husband...lol...ok

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    How about this...leave it marriage, leave marriage alone..leave HUSBAND and WIFE the hell alone and homosexuals want to be the same...then let them choose who is the wife and who isnt...I now pronounce you HUSBAND and WIFE is in marriage ceremonies whether justice of the peace of Priest or Minister...and that should not be changed becasue a few want it so...you want to be equal then conform to the rest of the world...and choose whose the wife and whos the husband only then can you be equal really anyway

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    One of the common arugements I've seen from social conservatives is that the creation of a civil union should answer the questions regarding gay marriage.

    Typically, the general idea is this:

    • The civil union will contain the same benefits as a heterosexual marriage
    • The term 'marriage' will only be recognized as between one man and one woman


    So, dear reader, my question to you is: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise with regards to the issue of Same-Sex marriage?

    I'll try to have the answers as applicable as possible.
    No, they are not because I neither believe that entitled religious people who believe they own the word marriage should be placated nor that "separate, but equal" is acceptable.

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    No, they are not because I neither believe that entitled religious people who believe they own the word marriage should be placated nor that "separate, but equal" is acceptable.
    Marriage is societal and largely defined by the more mainstream beliefs within that society. Look at the diversity of marriage around the world, some places allow polygamy, others allow SSM and others only have hetero marriages. They also have different terms for divorce. Maybe entitled homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to tell the majority of individuals in a state that their moral views on marriage should be entertained and forced into law regardless of what the society they live in thinks or believes. You can look at it either way.
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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    No, they are not because I neither believe that entitled religious people who believe they own the word marriage should be placated nor that "separate, but equal" is acceptable.
    For the record, I am not against gay marriage. I AM against them trying to change marriage to feed politically correct bull crap. If they want to have a "marriage" then they can have a marriage, just like everyone else, bride/groom and/or husband/wife. They should NOT have the right to change things to fit them. If that is what they want, then they should be ALL for civil unions which could be worded and defined the way they wish. However, when gay people claim they want "marriage" but then try to change certain aspects of it, they are only trying to agitate IMO. Why rock the boat? For vengeance? Sounds like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    No, they are not because I neither believe that entitled religious people who believe they own the word marriage should be placated nor that "separate, but equal" is acceptable.
    This is the kind of vitriolic bs that promulgates anger and frustration...gays and their cheerleaders...dont want equality they want to change the entire world for the majority..this has gotten to be more an ego trip than anything else.
    You want to denigrate religious people...you want to throw out the word marriage for the 94% you want to make it all generic...so 6% of the population can not only have equality they can have IT ALL THEIR WAY....know what..screw that..and that is said simply as fact not in any kind of anger whatsoever..

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    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Maybe entitled homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to tell the majority of individuals in a state that their moral views on marriage should be placate. You can look at it either way.
    The majority of Americans (53%) support same-sex marriage.

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    No, they are not because I neither believe that entitled religious people who believe they own the word marriage should be placated nor that "separate, but equal" is acceptable.
    And your assertion that "entitled religious people" (FYI, it's not ONLY religious who oppose gay marriage), think they own the word marriage is absolutely stupid beyond belief. It isn't that anyone thinks they OWN something. It's that they don't want the concept of marriage drastically changed to PLACATE the few, and screw everyone else. You reasoning for opposing civil unions is bogus and really is not a reason at all.

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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The majority of Americans (53%) support same-sex marriage.
    What matters is the makeup of each state since states issue marriage licenses and regulate it. 90% of people in New York could approve SSM but if 60% in Texas do not then we shouldn't expect the beliefs of New Yorkers to dictate how Texas handles marriage.
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    re: Are civil unions an acceptable compromise for SSM?[W:237]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    This is the kind of vitriolic bs that promulgates anger and frustration...gays and their cheerleaders...dont want equality they want to change the entire world for the majority..this has gotten to be more an ego trip than anything else.

    You want to denigrate religious people...you want to throw out the word marriage for the 94% you want to make it all generic...so 6% of the population can not only have equality they can have IT ALL THEIR WAY....know what..screw that..and that is said simply as fact not in any kind of anger whatsoever..
    I have no doubt that what I said angers some people against SSM. I'm not worried about that. As far as "denigrating" religious people, I don't seek to do that at all and many religious people have the same views as I do. I want same-sex marriage to be legal and I want gay/bisexual people to be treated equal. If anybody is upset by that and how I present my opinion, oh well.
    Last edited by ThePlayDrive; 12-07-12 at 02:44 PM.

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