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  • A relatively minor deal will be struck in December

    21 53.85%
  • A major overhaul of our taxes and entitlements will occur

    2 5.13%
  • We will go over the cliff on Jan 1 and make a back-dated deal

    11 28.21%
  • We are in waterfall mode, ladies and gents. Grab your hardhats.

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Thread: Will we go over the Fiscal Cliff

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    Re: Will we go over the Fiscal Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    At least Romney knew how to get more done for less. As president he could have off-shored government jobs to those willing to work for half the price and saved us taxpayers a boatload of money.
    Flip-Flop Robme would have tripled the deficit by more tax cuts for the wealthy and increased defense spending that the Pentagon did not want, ask for, nor need.

    Just be glad Flip-Flop Robme lost, and will fade into obscurity.

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    Re: Will we go over the Fiscal Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by Smartmouthwoman View Post
    thanks to President Twitter for once again failing to lead.
    Seriously???? You think the entire country is in the place it is right now because of ONE GUY? Nobody else over the last 5 decades has any responsibility for anything? NOBODY??????

    Please....how ignorant can you get?

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    Re: Will we go over the Fiscal Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I suspect that a minor deal of some sort will be agreed upon, and no real changes will be made, then the dog and pony show will go on as always, until there is absolutely no choice left, but to take a Thelma and Louise-style crash.
    I think you nailed it.
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    Re: Will we go over the Fiscal Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Seriously???? You think the entire country is in the place it is right now because of ONE GUY? Nobody else over the last 5 decades has any responsibility for anything? NOBODY??????

    Please....how ignorant can you get?
    It was not an ignorant observation. The responsibility for Obama's failure is shared by everyone who voted for him (even the ones who have been dead for years). The country might survive an Obama presidency, but I'm not sure it can survive an electorate that would give him a second term.
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    Re: Will we go over the Fiscal Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Seriously???? You think the entire country is in the place it is right now because of ONE GUY? Nobody else over the last 5 decades has any responsibility for anything? NOBODY??????

    Please....how ignorant can you get?
    Let's don't get carried away with 5 decades. I was referring to the last 4 years of poor leadership in bringing Congress together. Yeah, yeah, Congress stinks and most of those good ole boys & gals have been there for decades... but never before in the history of the US have we had such a do-nothing record. Do you suppose it could have anything to do with the POTUS preferring to twitter and talk to college students about what he wants instead of addressing members of Congress?

    Nah, I didn't think you'd agree with that.

    Hell, the least he could do is invite John Boehner to play golf with him in the off-chance they might talk biz between mulligans.

    Do-nothing President begats Do-nothing Congress.

    We've got both.

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    Re: Will we go over the Fiscal Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    At least Romney knew how to get more done for less. As president he could have off-shored government jobs to those willing to work for half the price and saved us taxpayers a boatload of money.
    Ya' damn betcha! He'd a sent them jobs to China right away. No screwin' round. The jobs eleminated would become new people on unemployment. How's zat workin' fer ya'?

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    Re: Will we go over the Fiscal Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by evan83 View Post
    Flip-Flop Robme would have tripled the deficit by more tax cuts for the wealthy and increased defense spending that the Pentagon did not want, ask for, nor need.

    Just be glad Flip-Flop Robme lost, and will fade into obscurity.
    Shoulda, woulda, coulda... the lib's mantra.

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    Re: Will we go over the Fiscal Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Ya' damn betcha! He'd a sent them jobs to China right away. No screwin' round. The jobs eleminated would become new people on unemployment. How's zat workin' fer ya'?
    So, you don't think there is any chance they could find a way to make themselves useful?
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    Re: Will we go over the Fiscal Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    It was not an ignorant observation. The responsibility for Obama's failure is shared by everyone who voted for him (even the ones who have been dead for years). The country might survive an Obama presidency, but I'm not sure it can survive an electorate that would give him a second term.
    Running a big gov't RINO, like Romney, McCain or Dole is not going to make any difference either. Note that the "Ryan plan", although much feared by the left, would, at best, approach balance of the federal "budget" by 2044, iff the economy growth improved over 100%.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Will we go over the Fiscal Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Running a big gov't RINO, like Romney, McCain or Dole is not going to make any difference either. Note that the "Ryan plan", although much feared by the left, would, at best, approach balance of the federal "budget" by 2044, iff the economy growth improved over 100%.
    Agreed. I wish we could find another Reagan, someone who had a sensible message and the skill to deliver it. Reagan got a bad rap for being a B movie actor, but his real career was as a labor negotiator (our only president who had also been president of his union) and he was very very good at it. That's a skill that seems to have been lost in both parties, and it's a definite "must-have" for sucessful governance.
    "We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress & the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
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