View Poll Results: If Syria uses WMD's on it's own people

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  • the USofA should get involved militarily. Immediately.

    7 14.89%
  • the USofA should continue to stay out of it completely.

    16 34.04%
  • it's proof the USofA should have gotten involved militarily sooner.

    2 4.26%
  • it would be the UN's problem, not ours.

    11 23.40%
  • let some other coalition of countries deal with it. The US should stay out.

    6 12.77%
  • other - please explain

    5 10.64%
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    Re: If Syria Uses WMD's - Should USA get involved militarily?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    You thought wrong. Read it properly without conveniently omitting part of the quote to take it out of context.



    and the rest of the quote you ommitted..
    Yes, the official backtracked on what he said, but I doubt whether he really knows for sure, he's likely just a mouthpiece of Assad. I've not seen a picture of any chemical weapons, just high level views of buildings. People have often said that Bush lied about WMD's in Iraq. At least in Iraq there was evidence that they were used on the Kurds. I've seen nothing in either story you posted or in any other news that says that Syria has them. Just implications, innuendo and wordplay. How often in this country does a politician say something and then moments later some correction comes out. Everyone from Obama on down.

    Spare me the implication that I'm being deceitful by omitting some wider piece of the article. There is still no proof and some Syrian politician misspeaking or being deliberately deceitful doesn't change that.

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    Re: If Syria Uses WMD's - Should USA get involved militarily?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Yes, the official backtracked on what he said, but I doubt whether he really knows for sure, he's likely just a mouthpiece of Assad. I've not seen a picture of any chemical weapons, just high level views of buildings. People have often said that Bush lied about WMD's in Iraq. At least in Iraq there was evidence that they were used on the Kurds. I've seen nothing in either story you posted or in any other news that says that Syria has them. Just implications, innuendo and wordplay. How often in this country does a politician say something and then moments later some correction comes out. Everyone from Obama on down.

    Spare me the implication that I'm being deceitful by omitting some wider piece of the article. There is still no proof and some Syrian politician misspeaking or being deliberately deceitful doesn't change that.
    To try and keep this thread on-topic (I know I'm guilty of off-topic stuff in some threads as well), the context of this thread is that Syria would not only have WMDs but will have used them. Given those two assumptions being correct, what would you the think the U.S. should to do?

    Me personally, I think this is a U.N. problem and I would have no problem with the U.S. going in a support role along with other major nations. However, this would be contingent upon major support from the other nations and not just the U.S. footing the bill in money and lives.

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    Re: If Syria Uses WMD's - Should USA get involved militarily?

    The US should stay out of it, completely.

    While a revolt against the leaders in Syria may be a welcomed idea, the problem is that the rebels are a coalition similar to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan during the soviet invasion. After Assad is overthown, some of these factions will start fighting each other. Some are hardcore fundamentalist. Iran will continue supporting the Shi'ite faction that currently holds power, even after Assad is removed. Other fundamentalist will support various Sunni factions. Al Queda and others did this in Iraq.

    I for one have no confidence that Obama would institute changes in the military necessary to take on such conditions. We would only endanger our troops without the leadership with the political will necessary to carry us to victory. I am all for taking Assad out, but if we are not going to do it right and stay until the end, then we should stay the hell out of it.
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    Re: If Syria Uses WMD's - Should USA get involved militarily?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post

    Me personally, I think this is a U.N. problem and I would have no problem with the U.S. going in a support role along with other major nations. However, this would be contingent upon major support from the other nations and not just the U.S. footing the bill in money and lives.

    This. perfect.

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    Re: If Syria Uses WMD's - Should USA get involved militarily?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Is this a problem the USofA should deal with? Or the UN? Or some other coalition of countries?
    I think that everyone should stay out of it unless they are directly involved-- AKA, being attacked by Syria.

    They need to get their **** together, and the US is not the solution to their problems.
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    Re: If Syria Uses WMD's - Should USA get involved militarily?

    My main concern is terrorist getting possession of Syria's nasty little toys.

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    Re: If Syria Uses WMD's - Should USA get involved militarily?

    Quote Originally Posted by LoopyPaladin View Post
    I think that everyone should stay out of it unless they are directly involved-- AKA, being attacked by Syria.

    They need to get their **** together, and the US is not the solution to their problems.
    It is a Human problem. Really nice example of socialist humanity you demonstrate. Based upon your statement, it is clear that you have a rather selfish point of view.

    The problem is not that we shouldn't, from a human standpoint, it's that we currently are not set up to do it right and in the end may actually do harm instead of good. Also Syria borders on Israel, a US ally and we certainly have an interest in protecting our allies. Strategically, humanly, morally and ethically, we have a lot of reasons to get involved, but if we are not willing to develop and deploy the tactics necessary for the time needed, then we should stay the hell out of it.
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    Re: If Syria Uses WMD's - Should USA get involved militarily?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    It is a Human problem. Really nice example of socialist humanity you demonstrate. Based upon your statement, it is clear that you have a rather selfish point of view.

    The problem is not that we shouldn't, from a human standpoint, it's that we currently are not set up to do it right and in the end may actually do harm instead of good. Also Syria borders on Israel, a US ally and we certainly have an interest in protecting our allies. Strategically, humanly, morally and ethically, we have a lot of reasons to get involved, but if we are not willing to develop and deploy the tactics necessary for the time needed, then we should stay the hell out of it.
    I just don't think that the US needs to get involved with Syria with all of the things that they're already dealing with.

    My thought process is that if the US gets involved with Syria, then a war will break out with Syria, but that's not really the issue... it's Syria's allies that are the problem. I'm sure that if the US gets involved with fending off Syria, then their allies would be more than happy to retaliate.

    Maybe that wouldn't happen, but what does a little Canuckistanian know?
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    Re: If Syria Uses WMD's - Should USA get involved militarily?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    US weighing military options if Syria uses WMD - Yahoo! News <-- clicky



    Is this a problem the USofA should deal with? Or the UN? Or some other coalition of countries?
    The US, a western government coalition or an Arab government coalition led by the US. Its amazing the level of crap we always find ourselves in the middle of because global oil market stability is crucial to our own economic well being. Oligopoly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: If Syria Uses WMD's - Should USA get involved militarily?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    The US, a western government coalition or an Arab government coalition led by the US. Its amazing the level of crap we always find ourselves in the middle of because global oil market stability is crucial to our own economic well being. Oligopoly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    That is our own fault. We have other options that we chose not to take. We use diesel-electric rail instead of electric rail. We use diesel and gasoline powered cars/trucks instead of Hydrogen, natural gas or bio-fuel powered ones. All of these can be introduced and enter the market today. With the use of nuclear batteries, we might even be able to use straight electric. Can we completely change it overnight, no, but if implemented changes, in less than 5 years, we wouldn't need crude oil at levels we could not produce ourselves if we needed any at all.
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