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Thread: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    *Created* treason?

    Could you explain that a bit more?
    Sure. He drummed up the lies about Iraq and WMDs and such lies "created" treason.
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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I've seen Mount Rushmore. It is certainly impressive.

    Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln were certainly huge figures in our history. Teddy Roosevelt... well he was quite an interesting character but not of the same magnitude as the others.

    Personally I am not sure it should ever have been built though. I felt about it much the same way I felt when I stood in the Lincoln Memorial in DC.... yes it is impressive, but I feel uncomfortable about portraying human beings, however important, as larger-than-life demigod-like figures. It smacks of idolatry to me.

    I don't think W is of the same caliber as Washington, Jefferson or Lincoln. Now, Teddy.... well, I found the guy fascinating but he just isn't in the same league. You could compare W to Teddy and they wouldn't be that far apart in magnitude.


    But no, I don't favor putting any more faces on Mt Rushmore.
    They put the wrong Roosevelt up there in my opinion. FDR deserves his own memorial to make up for it.
    Bush is best forgotten as soon as we clean up the mess he made.
    The lesson is beware those that don't get the popular vote. We were punished soundly for that mistake.
    Last edited by iguanaman; 12-09-12 at 05:16 PM.

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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    FDR deserves his own memorial to make up for it.
    He does have one.

    Another is on the way, as well.
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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Here's a recently completed one in NYC (designed by an architect in 1973, completed after he passed away). I don't think this is the same one I was thinking about. There was one where they were going to have a statue of FDR sitting on a wheelchair, extending his hand to a young boy. It could be on this memorial, but I don't think so.

    FDR Four Freedoms Park
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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    He does have one.

    Another is on the way, as well.
    You are right and it is a pretty impressive one at that. As it should be. Here are his 4 freedoms etched in stone for eternity.


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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Sure. He drummed up the lies about Iraq and WMDs and such lies "created" treason.
    I think you mean he committed treason. To "create" treason is to be the very first one to ever commit a treasonous act, and probably even the first to even think of it as a concept.
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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You are right and it is a pretty impressive one at that. As it should be. Here are his 4 freedoms etched in stone for eternity.

    Freedom from want? Is that where our society gets its entitlement mindset?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Bush wasn't the worst President ever. He didn't commit treason, he relied on very bad intelligence. If anything, he believed what he wanted to see and disregarded dissenting opinions about Saddam.

    But Mt. Rushmore? . There's a long list to get on before him, and that's just Republicans.


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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by evan83 View Post
    His presidency had some significant accomplishments--regardless if you agree with them or not--just like any other president in modern history. But they were significant achievements nonetheless.

    • Issued an executive order prohibiting federal funds for international family planning groups that provide abortions and contraceptive services.
    • Upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals.
    • Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains.
    • Made $33 million available for abstinence education programs in 2004.
    • Supports the Defense of Marriage Act - and a Constitutional amendment saying marriage is between one man and one woman.
    • Not once did Iraq ever attack America during his 8 years in office, due to his toppling of the Saddam regime.
    • Expanded the role of faith-based and community organizations in after-school programs.
    • Was the first president to get elected to have a DUI conviction, proving that anybody could be president, regardless of past misdeeds, and providing that you found Jesus.
    • Saved America from the "Clinton Recession" that was starting it's slow creep in the late 1990s, with tax cuts for the rich.
    • "Country-pop" genre of music made a triumphant resurgence during his presidency, moreso than at any time in modern American history.
    • Christian "megachurches" experienced a huge boom during his presidency that survives to this day (albeit with lesser influence), despite President Obama's stubborn "War on Religion."
    • Provided a "moral contrast" to the sexual sins of the Clinton White House.
    • Pushed through THREE raises for our military. Increased military pay by more than $1 billion a year.
    • Killed the old US/Soviet Union ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.
    • 911
    No and since any further additions to Mt. Rushmore would likely destroy what is there currently (check for yourself, there won't be anymore POTUS faces added to the already fragile monument) there is no reason to expect either Obama's arse or Bush's mug.

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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    I voted yes, just to screw with people.

    I would not be surprised if Obama were put on Mount Rushmore though.

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