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Thread: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

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    Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    An even better question is should it be given back to the rightful owners the Sioux.
    Nah, now it belongs to everyone--it is a National Park.
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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it's interesting to me that Mt. Rushmore will probably be one of the longest lasting American (or human) achievements. it could last tens of thousands of years whether humans do or not.

    aliens visiting the ruins of earth will tour Mt. Rushmore, the pyramids, and will possibly be able to enjoy a Twinkie, assuming the brand continues.

    there's also the bas relief of the confederate generals on the side of Stone Mountain GA near atlanta, as well as the Crazy Horse memorial, which when finished I believe will dwarf mount rushmore... also the jesus of rio de janerio, the sphinx...lots of stuff will be around in millenia, except for the buddhas of bamyan.
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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by evan83 View Post
    His presidency had some significant accomplishments--regardless if you agree with them or not--just like any other president in modern history. But they were significant achievements nonetheless.

    • Issued an executive order prohibiting federal funds for international family planning groups that provide abortions and contraceptive services.
    • Upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals.
    • Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains.
    • Made $33 million available for abstinence education programs in 2004.
    • Supports the Defense of Marriage Act - and a Constitutional amendment saying marriage is between one man and one woman.
    • Not once did Iraq ever attack America during his 8 years in office, due to his toppling of the Saddam regime.
    • Expanded the role of faith-based and community organizations in after-school programs.
    • Was the first president to get elected to have a DUI conviction, proving that anybody could be president, regardless of past misdeeds, and providing that you found Jesus.
    • Saved America from the "Clinton Recession" that was starting it's slow creep in the late 1990s, with tax cuts for the rich.
    • "Country-pop" genre of music made a triumphant resurgence during his presidency, moreso than at any time in modern American history.
    • Christian "megachurches" experienced a huge boom during his presidency that survives to this day (albeit with lesser influence), despite President Obama's stubborn "War on Religion."
    • Provided a "moral contrast" to the sexual sins of the Clinton White House.
    • Pushed through THREE raises for our military. Increased military pay by more than $1 billion a year.
    • Killed the old US/Soviet Union ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.
    • 911
    Bush might have done a lot of good things, but none of those warrant putting his face on a massive national monument.
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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    I think it should have Barack Obama, Bill & Hillary Clinton and also Al Gore. All Democrats; all highly enlightened, and all possessing big enough egos to match the size of that mountain side.

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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    I think all presidents should be put on Mount Rushmore.

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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic View Post
    I think all presidents should be put on Mount Rushmore.
    change "on" to "under" and I might agree with you.....

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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    I want to see Nixon carved there.
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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    change "on" to "under" and I might agree with you.....
    I think all presidents have had equal performance during their presidency, so they should all be added there equally.

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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I've seen Mount Rushmore. It is certainly impressive.

    Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln were certainly huge figures in our history. Teddy Roosevelt... well he was quite an interesting character but not of the same magnitude as the others.

    Personally I am not sure it should ever have been built though. I felt about it much the same way I felt when I stood in the Lincoln Memorial in DC.... yes it is impressive, but I feel uncomfortable about portraying human beings, however important, as larger-than-life demigod-like figures. It smacks of idolatry to me.

    I don't think W is of the same caliber as Washington, Jefferson or Lincoln. Now, Teddy.... well, I found the guy fascinating but he just isn't in the same league. You could compare W to Teddy and they wouldn't be that far apart in magnitude.


    But no, I don't favor putting any more faces on Mt Rushmore.
    I agree with Goshin here on almost all counts. Weird that Roosevelt is there. Not even sure Jefferson should be, and I really really like Jefferson. Washington was the first, and conceptually our founding President. Lincoln 'preserved the union' so him too.

    I couldn't care less about idolatry in the sense that you mention it Goshin, but I do agree that holding people up as demi-gods is unwise.
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    Re: Should George W. Bush be put on Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic View Post
    I think all presidents have had equal performance during their presidency, so they should all be added there equally.
    Not withstanding my disagreement with your evaluation of all Presidents being equal, Mount Rushmore isn't but so big and I do not know that we have the expertise or money to do it with anyway.

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