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    Re: Obama will take your guns away

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    Want to guess what the 4 have in common? Hint: it's relevant to today.
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    Re: Obama will take your guns away

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Not directly

    but what Obama can and will do is to appoint more judges like Sotomayor who do not believe there is an individual right of citizens to own guns. that means if Heller comes up again and Kennedy has been replaced by another anti gun justice, our gun rights are in jeopardy Furthermore there are many restrictions that many of us believe are unconstitutional that are in place but of dubious validity such as the Hughes Amendment which banned the legal registration and ownership of post May 19, 1986 automatic weapons Another couple anti gun justices will mean that many restrictions less draconian than outright bans of most guns might be sustained
    You really think they'd overturn at the SCOTUS 200+ years of precedent?
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    Re: Obama will take your guns away

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You really think they'd overturn at the SCOTUS 200+ years of precedent?
    He does, but he has a will to believe insane ****: http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...ote-obama.html
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    Re: Obama will take your guns away

    I doubt he would be able to do anything directly, and he has a lot bigger problems to worry about. I do worry a little about indirect means of making owning/shooting guns more difficult, but so far he has shown no inclination to do much of anything relating to guns.
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    Re: Obama will take your guns away

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Just curious, do you think Obama will somehow take your guns away?

    Extra points if you can tell me what the last four options have in common.
    Where's your evidence to post this type of poll?
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    Re: Obama will take your guns away

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You really think they'd overturn at the SCOTUS 200+ years of precedent?
    200 years of precedent? you mean the HELLER DECISION which was passed a few years ago? You have to remember that the individual right was not actually recognized until then

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    Re: Obama will take your guns away

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He does, but he has a will to believe insane ****: http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...ote-obama.html
    so you labor under the mistake that there has been two hundred years? actually, most of the court of appeals starting in the WWI area had ignored an individual right because they supported limitations on "Papist" immigrants

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    Re: Obama will take your guns away

    I love it when right wing abuses of the system are used to support right wing attacks on POTENTIAL abuse of the system by others.

    I'd say those most willing to beat the 'they is after our 'guns', man the email ramparts!' drum are lobbyists and lawyers of the NRA.

    In this day of hyper partisanship and vicious primary campaigns I don't see enough politicians willing to support so sensitive an issue until after the Tea Party dies.

    When it comes to Supreme Court Justices the President has to get his nominee past a rather reluctant,(I am being nice), Republican block in the Senate.

    Next the Justice's don't always do the political wishes of the President who nominated them. The current Chief Justice comes to mind on Obamacare, the Chief was appointed by BushII.

    There is money to be made in What Ifin' this. Fear to be maintained, Party Faithful to be given a bone to gnaw on...

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    Re: Obama will take your guns away

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I love it when right wing abuses of the system are used to support right wing attacks on POTENTIAL abuse of the system by others.

    I'd say those most willing to beat the 'they is after our 'guns', man the email ramparts!' drum are lobbyists and lawyers of the NRA.

    In this day of hyper partisanship and vicious primary campaigns I don't see enough politicians willing to support so sensitive an issue until after the Tea Party dies.

    When it comes to Supreme Court Justices the President has to get his nominee past a rather reluctant,(I am being nice), Republican block in the Senate.

    Next the Justice's don't always do the political wishes of the President who nominated them. The current Chief Justice comes to mind on Obamacare, the Chief was appointed by BushII.

    There is money to be made in What Ifin' this. Fear to be maintained, Party Faithful to be given a bone to gnaw on...

    "please continue to donate to the NRA as lobbyists have kids in private school and vacation homes to pay for..."
    The NRA is not a pro second amendment group, they lobby for CCW permits (and other "infringemets") because they (their members) get money from them. For example, the Texas CCW permit law requires that one first complete a "NRA" CCW course (for about $100) to "qualify" to spend $140 more to simply apply for a state issued CCW permit.
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    Re: Obama will take your guns away

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you labor under the mistake that there has been two hundred years? actually, most of the court of appeals starting in the WWI area had ignored an individual right because they supported limitations on "Papist" immigrants
    There have been rulings on the second amendment since at least 1820. That would be...about 200 years.
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