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    Re: What do you suppose has stopped more violent crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Well for someone like me it would be rather easy to just scare them off since I am pretty tall. Just attract a lot of attention to yourself and and act intimidating and you can scare most of them away. In other cases it's rather hard for them to stab you if they don't have eyeballs or something in their eyeballs.
    Its good to be trained in how to best get the better of a criminal.
    Its absurd, when confronted with the thief with a gun, or knife, to pull you own weapon...within that little time frame, a second or two, death or serious injury occurs.Cell phone or gun....matter not....
    These are NOT the answer...

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    Re: What do you suppose has stopped more violent crime?

    Choice C: Strengthening education, improving transit networks, cracking down on real crime and not victimless crimes, improving the social safety net, working with civic leaders of diverse backgrounds, building more parks and fewer parking lots, decriminalizing recreational drug use, etc. I.e., addressing the root causes of 90% of violent crime and not trying to play whack-a-mole with it.
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    Re: What do you suppose has stopped more violent crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Choice C: Strengthening education....
    Now that you're done avoiding the question, how about answering it..
    A or B?

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    Re: What do you suppose has stopped more violent crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Its good to be trained in how to best get the better of a criminal.
    Its absurd, when confronted with the thief with a gun, or knife, to pull you own weapon...within that little time frame, a second or two, death or serious injury occurs.Cell phone or gun....matter not....
    These are NOT the answer...
    One of the choices is correct. Which do you think it is?
    A? B?

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    Re: What do you suppose has stopped more violent crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    no vote
    Why do you think that neither choice has stopped more violent crime than the other?

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    Re: What do you suppose has stopped more violent crime?

    Witnesses stop crimes, because criminals don't want to get caught. The prominence of cell phones has drastically increased the chance for witnesses to see a crime. The poll seems to expect that the criminal will fear the police literally showing up and rescuing the victim in the middle of being mugged. That's insane. But every potential person around is a danger to the criminal. Every cell phone in the hands of everyone who could call the police, take a photo, or capture of a video is that much greater chance that the criminal will be caught. Thugs do not fear that their victims might be armed. They fear capture later on. No one's fantasies of being John Wayne and valiantly shooting the black hats is going to change that. If you are met with violence, and respond with violence, odds are just that you're going to die. You have a lot more to lose. And you will lose.

    Get over yourselves.
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    Re: What do you suppose has stopped more violent crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Witnesses stop crimes, because criminals don't want to get caught. The prominence of cell phones has drastically increased the chance for witnesses to see a crime. The poll seems to expect that the criminal will fear the police literally showing up and rescuing the victim in the middle of being mugged. That's insane.
    So, you choose B.
    Correct?

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    Re: What do you suppose has stopped more violent crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    So, you choose B.
    Correct?
    No, B is complete nonsense. We don't live in the old west. But A is worded foolishly. Communities stop crime, not lone gunmen. Not even lone phonemen, either.

    Even outside of a direct confrontation, the proliferation of information technology, including through phones, has increased education and thus financial stability for many. Financially stable people don't rob others. Phones have done more to stop crime than guns ever could. We've tried to use violence to stop other violence for thousands of years, and it has never worked. Now we're trying something that could actually help.
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    Re: What do you suppose has stopped more violent crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    No, B is complete nonsense. We don't live in the old west. But A is worded foolishly. Communities stop crime, not lone gunmen.
    You clearly do not understand the question. I only slightly wonder if this is deliberate.

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    Re: What do you suppose has stopped more violent crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    You clearly do not understand the question. I only slightly wonder if this is deliberate.
    those who think citizens ought to outsource personal safety to the benevolent big brother government tend to be hostile to those who think that one's own personal safety is mainly an individual duty

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