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Thread: Is Paul Ryan the frontrunner for the Republicans in 2016 as of the end of 2012?

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    Is Paul Ryan the frontrunner for the Republicans in 2016 as of the end of 2012?

    The Republicans have long acted in accord with the "next in line" principle for their Presidential nominations, but just who the next-in-line is sometimes varies: occasionally it's the runner-up in the previous primary (Reagan), occasionally it's their Congressional leader (Dole), but Republican Vice-Presidents and Vice-Presidential nominees, actually, have not had much success in becoming Presidential nominees. With the exception of George H.W. Bush, the last former Vice-Presidential nominee on the Republican ticket to attain the Presidential nomination was Bob Dole in 1996, and there was a twenty year gap between his Vice-Presidential and Presidential nominations.

    I think, for now, Ryan has to be assumed to be the frontrunner for want of any other candidate. I do not at all think he will be the nominee. I think it's especially unlikely he'll be nominated if the Democrats put up Biden because of how badly Biden beat him in this year's Vice-Presidential debates.

    In short: I answer 'yes' to my own question, but 'no' to the greater question of whether he'll actually win the nomination.
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    Re: Is Paul Ryan the frontrunner for the Republicans in 2016 as of the end of 2012?

    IMO, Paul Ryan is a smart man but he doesn't have the ability to speak the way some people do. That just wasn't a gift he appears to have been born with, so I don't think he will win the nomination, not because he isn't smart enough to be a good leader, but because he doesn't have the "public speaking" qualities needed to win an election.
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    Re: Is Paul Ryan the frontrunner for the Republicans in 2016 as of the end of 2012?

    please make this so
    the romney team nicknamed ryan 'gilligan' because of his obvious attributes
    should make 2016 a breeze for Elizabeth Warren
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    Re: Is Paul Ryan the frontrunner for the Republicans in 2016 as of the end of 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    The Republicans have long acted in accord with the "next in line" principle for their Presidential nominations, but just who the next-in-line is sometimes varies: occasionally it's the runner-up in the previous primary (Reagan), occasionally it's their Congressional leader (Dole), but Republican Vice-Presidents and Vice-Presidential nominees, actually, have not had much success in becoming Presidential nominees. With the exception of George H.W. Bush, the last former Vice-Presidential nominee on the Republican ticket to attain the Presidential nomination was Bob Dole in 1996, and there was a twenty year gap between his Vice-Presidential and Presidential nominations.

    I think, for now, Ryan has to be assumed to be the frontrunner for want of any other candidate. I do not at all think he will be the nominee. I think it's especially unlikely he'll be nominated if the Democrats put up Biden because of how badly Biden beat him in this year's Vice-Presidential debates.

    In short: I answer 'yes' to my own question, but 'no' to the greater question of whether he'll actually win the nomination.
    Weren't people saying the same thing about Sarah Palin 4 years ago?

    It's more likely Ryan will have a reality show on cable TV than be the next republican nominee.

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    Re: Is Paul Ryan the frontrunner for the Republicans in 2016 as of the end of 2012?

    the field I see right now :

    Rubio
    Ryan
    Jindal
    Christie

    right now, I'd put Rubio as the frontrunner, if there is such a thing less than a month after the election. this speculation is somewhat meaningless for at least another year or two, though.

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    Re: Is Paul Ryan the frontrunner for the Republicans in 2016 as of the end of 2012?

    You people are seriously discussing who the front runner is for 2016...in Nov. 2012?

    Why not 2020? Or 2032?

    Why not discuss which pre-schoolers have the edge for 2064?



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    Re: Is Paul Ryan the frontrunner for the Republicans in 2016 as of the end of 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    You people are seriously discussing who the front runner is for 2016...in Nov. 2012?

    Why not 2020? Or 2032?

    Why not discuss which pre-schoolers have the edge for 2064?

    I'm actually more interested this far out, because it's highly likely an early putative frontrunner doesn't actually become the nominee.
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    Re: Is Paul Ryan the frontrunner for the Republicans in 2016 as of the end of 2012?

    I could maybe see Ryan gaining the nomination in 8-16 years, after gaining some maturity, not unlike Nixon made a come back later, but I don't see it happening in 2016. I think... hope... that the Reps will give us some more middle-of-the-road options next time.
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    Re: Is Paul Ryan the frontrunner for the Republicans in 2016 as of the end of 2012?

    Bear in mind that the question here really isn't "is Ryan the most likely Republican to be the nominee?". It's "is Ryan the most likely Republican to be the nominee right now?".
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    Re: Is Paul Ryan the frontrunner for the Republicans in 2016 as of the end of 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Bear in mind that the question here really isn't "is Ryan the most likely Republican to be the nominee?". It's "is Ryan the most likely Republican to be the nominee right now?".
    I would say 'no'. I'm not hearing much about him at all other than regarding the recent campaign.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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