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Was the "Satanic panic" of the 1980s/early 1990s a legitimate concern?

See thread title.

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • No

    Votes: 19 90.5%

  • Total voters
    21
A lot of people whose lives have been ruined? That's a stretch. Have an example of someone who was falsely accused, etc?

Just one example of many.

Woman recants accusation of sex assault - San Antonio Express-News

Sitting in the prison where she’s spent nearly half of her life, Elizabeth Ramirez is stunned by the words that could help exonerate her and three friends of the sexual assault of her two nieces, a crime she said she couldn’t fathom let alone commit.

It never happened, one niece now says of the debauched, orgy-like nightmare that she and her older sister described to San Antonio police in 1994 when they were 7 and 9.

“I want my aunt and her friends out of prison,” Stephanie, 25, said by phone last week. “Whatever it takes to get them out I’m going to do. I can’t live my life knowing that four women are sleeping in a cage because of me.”

On and off the witness stand, the sisters changed their accounts of the timing, the use of weapons, the perpetrators and other basic details of the assault every time they told it to authorities, records show.

It was one of several red flags raised in the Express-News investigation published in December 2010 that also delved into concerns about the scientific legitimacy of medical evidence used against the women, whether anyone looked into a previous rape allegation made by the girls and if anti-gay views prejudiced Ramirez’s jury.

Probably the most famous exonorated victims of the Satanic panic were the West Memphis Three.
 
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Words cannot express my contempt for the people involved in that stupidity. The public may be a bunch of mouthbreathing subhuman idiots who might believe in mass satanic conspiracy, its absurd that our courts would lap up such bull****. I was appalled by the credibility given to birthers and truthers, but it seems that our modern lunacy pales in comparison.
 
What is worse the "victims" were caused to believe that they were raped in those satanic rituals by wannabe Freudian psychoanalysts. Since repressed memories are outside one's awareness and yet they influence one's behavior it is up to a skilled heavily trained analyst to pick them up and bring into conscious awareness with free association.

But these amateurs thought that they could relate any problem with sexual rape, impose that the client was not aware of this made up preset, and guided to believe that they were raped under the authority of the expert! After many such clients a detective went the opposite way and made research to find from where were these allegations coming from. These "therapists" were then trialed.
 
BTW Einzige I protest to join in to this poll of this thread (will debate though) because you used Wikipedia the free conservapedia as basis of your topic. I hesitate to use data whose foundations are search engines.
 
BTW Einzige I protest to join in to this poll of this thread (will debate though) because you used Wikipedia the free conservapedia as basis of your topic. I hesitate to use data whose foundations are search engines.

Have you got a link you'd prefer?
 
Any documentary, News report, etc., found in Youtube and perhaps other sites would do. This is a well known topic, you should see how I struggle to find other sites except Wikipedia when a topic is less known :)
 
I still remember a friend I had in grade school who had Christian fundamentalist parents who would play heavy metal songs backwards to see if there were any Satanic lyrics to them.
 
BTW Einzige I protest to join in to this poll of this thread (will debate though) because you used Wikipedia the free conservapedia as basis of your topic. I hesitate to use data whose foundations are search engines.

The Wikipedia article is based on references. You are free to check the quality of them.
 
A lot of people whose lives have been ruined? That's a stretch. Have an example of someone who was falsely accused, etc?

West Memphis Three is a pretty famous one. Some will argue they were guilty, but the Satanic connotations pursued by the authorities made the trial a joke.
 
The Wikipedia article is based on references. You are free to check the quality of them.

Those references as well as its quality and the very purpose they were stated there among other references and even facts stand on search engine results foundations.

Example:

Issue A has 100 search engine results (i.e., it is mentioned 100 times in Google, Yahoo, etc) and has 50 references
Issue B has 10 search engine results and has 50 references also.

They go A, its final, and no fact on ground (e.g., pictures, documents, arguments) can ever change the popular statement. They go by popularity rather than facts. Cause you see that is how Wiki survives by being popular. And it becomes popular by checking what search engine results provide.

Back on topic now...
 
Those references as well as its quality and the very purpose they were stated there among other references and even facts stand on search engine results foundations.

Example:

Issue A has 100 search engine results (i.e., it is mentioned 100 times in Google, Yahoo, etc) and has 50 references
Issue B has 10 search engine results and has 50 references also.

They go A, its final, and no fact on ground (e.g., pictures, documents, arguments) can ever change the popular statement. They go by popularity rather than facts. Cause you see that is how Wiki survives by being popular. And it becomes popular by checking what search engine results provide.

Back on topic now...

Some of which will be news articles, videos, pictures which you would have accepted in the OP, even though there won't be any conflicting interpretation presented in the OP. Why would that be a more accurate basis for discussion? You are still free to check the quality of a Wikipedia article as you would a BBC news report and present a conflicting interpretation as you wish.
 
Some of which will be news articles, videos, pictures which you would have accepted in the OP, even though there won't be any conflicting interpretation presented in the OP. Why would that be a more accurate basis for discussion? You are still free to check the quality of a Wikipedia article as you would a BBC news report and present a conflicting interpretation as you wish.

Those of which would be selected a priory based on search engine results first though.

Ok, could you open up a thread about whether Wiki is credible? Otherwise us debating that here will only hijack the thread.
 
You can't be serious.

Yes - I am . . . he brought it up I thought with a little prodding he'd point out who was wrongly accused so we can talk about specifics. . . and so on.
 
I still remember a friend I had in grade school who had Christian fundamentalist parents who would play heavy metal songs backwards to see if there were any Satanic lyrics to them.

It's not over. I've heard that if you play Nickelback records backwards, there's satanic messages. It gets worse though- if you play it forwards you hear Nickelback.
 
Is there some point you're trying to make by bringing up these trials from over 30 years ago?

Should we never discuss the Salem Witch Trials because they were over three hundred years ago?
 
Should we never discuss the Salem Witch Trials because they were over three hundred years ago?

I'm wondering if there's some point you're trying to make. The only thing you wrote in your OP was that some people collectively owe some others an apology. Rather vague debate topic.
 
I'm wondering if there's some point you're trying to make. The only thing you wrote in your OP was that some people collectively owe some others an apology. Rather vague debate topic.

I thought it was perfectly clear in the OP. But if you need clarity for some reason: a lot of people were later exonorated from any involvement in such 'Satanic' crimes (a vast majority of individuals convicted under the auspices of the "Satanic panic", in fact, have been cleared, and of the few who remain in prison, virtually all are generally believed innocent by observers). It seems that, from start to finish, the entire thing was a national-level fiasco virtually unprecedented in American history, a mass hysteria in the most literal sense.
 
I thought it was perfectly clear in the OP. But if you need clarity for some reason: a lot of people were later exonorated from any involvement in such 'Satanic' crimes (a vast majority of individuals convicted under the auspices of the "Satanic panic", in fact, have been cleared, and of the few who remain in prison, virtually all are generally believed innocent by observers). It seems that, from start to finish, the entire thing was a national-level fiasco virtually unprecedented in American history, a mass hysteria in the most literal sense.

I can agree with that, but people want to protect children.
 
I can agree with that, but people want to protect children.

I think too much is done in our society in the name of "the children", and vague, nebulous groups like "soccer moms" are given far too much influence politically. Tipper Gore, the ESRB - I don't have much time or patience for social nannies. It's particularly egregious when religion is invoked in the name of "the children".
 
I think too much is done in our society in the name of "the children", and vague, nebulous groups like "soccer moms" are given far too much influence politically. Tipper Gore, the ESRB - I don't have much time or patience for social nannies. It's particularly egregious when religion is invoked in the name of "the children".

These particular cases are over the top, I can agree with that, sounds almost like temporary insanity, but that does NOT mean that we should ever doubt a child's accusation or take it lightly. Child abuse is a BIG problem. All accusations should always be investigated.
 
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