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Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

Which one is it?


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Thus is your interpretation. But many Christians would disagree with you that Christianity almost wholesale abandoned the OT.



Correction: Their interpretation of the Torah. Orthodox are seen as liberal compared to the Haredi, who to me don't seem all that different from Islamic whackjobs.

Of course it's based upon interpretation

I have read the old and new testaments, and the moral incompatibility and ethical inconsistencies between the two textx cannot be ignored in my opinion.

The fact that 60% of the US population believes the earth is about 6000 years old, has no moral issues with war, advocates a corporatized greed based society is a massive monument highlighting the disgraceful hypocrisy that underpinns the bulk of the US population.

This shouldn't surprise anyone, seeing as the USA is amongst the top 7 most funadamentalist fanatical corpocratic pseudo-theocratic nut job states on the globe.
 
Which one is it?

Personally for me it is a Christmas tree. It's the only holiday I put a tree up for, so it is a Christmas tree. If someone else is so anal that they MUST call it a "holiday tree" then so be it. I couldn't care less.
 
I call it "Early Childhood Pyromania 101"

I believe New Zealanders pay tax as well.

Perhaps you can isolate yourself completely in Antarctica and keep all the money you make and pay no tax and not contribute in ay way to society.

About 97% of all innovations and inventions can be traced back to state or tax payer funding.

Even the Internet you are on now is one of those tax payer funded projects

Who built your railroads, your roads, ports, etc???

Notice how impoverished and rusty the US infrastructure is without tax payer funding?

You didnt think the private sector vultures and inefficient Capitalist corporate leaches were going to build and maintain everything did you?

And of course there are the Corporate fascist Wars the US inflicts upon other defenceless nations

Gee I wonder where the money comes from for those war crimes and atrocities perpetrated on behalf of the Corporate Fascist Masters?

So, you are more than welcome to paddle your way to the South Pole and live a perfect individualistic existence where YOU CAN KEEP THE MONEY YOU MAKE

cheers
 
I believe New Zealanders pay tax as well.

Perhaps you can isolate yourself completely in Antarctica and keep all the money you make and pay no tax and not contribute in ay way to society.

About 97% of all innovations and inventions can be traced back to state or tax payer funding.

Even the Internet you are on now is one of those tax payer funded projects

Who built your railroads, your roads, ports, etc???

Notice how impoverished and rusty the US infrastructure is without tax payer funding?

You didnt think the private sector vultures and inefficient Capitalist corporate leaches were going to build and maintain everything did you?

And of course there are the Corporate fascist Wars the US inflicts upon other defenceless nations

Gee I wonder where the money comes from for those war crimes and atrocities perpetrated on behalf of the Corporate Fascist Masters?

So, you are more than welcome to paddle your way to the South Pole and live a perfect individualistic existence where YOU CAN KEEP THE MONEY YOU MAKE

cheers

Firstly, I'll presume you're responding to my signature, secondly, you completely misread it.
 
Firstly, I'll presume you're responding to my signature, secondly, you completely misread it.

You mean you were being sarcastic?

Or are you being sacastic now?
 
I believe New Zealanders pay tax as well.

Perhaps you can isolate yourself completely in Antarctica and keep all the money you make and pay no tax and not contribute in ay way to society.

About 97% of all innovations and inventions can be traced back to state or tax payer funding.

Even the Internet you are on now is one of those tax payer funded projects

Who built your railroads, your roads, ports, etc???

Notice how impoverished and rusty the US infrastructure is without tax payer funding?

You didnt think the private sector vultures and inefficient Capitalist corporate leaches were going to build and maintain everything did you?

And of course there are the Corporate fascist Wars the US inflicts upon other defenceless nations

Gee I wonder where the money comes from for those war crimes and atrocities perpetrated on behalf of the Corporate Fascist Masters?

So, you are more than welcome to paddle your way to the South Pole and live a perfect individualistic existence where YOU CAN KEEP THE MONEY YOU MAKE

cheers

Wow, even on a thread about trees you bring the same old message. You forgot to mention that the 20th century had two other forms of fascism. Did you forget?
 
Wow, even on a thread about trees you bring the same old message. You forgot to mention that the 20th century had two other forms of fascism. Did you forget?

....I se that you are still following me and continuing your great skill of non-contribution.

sounds like you have a crush on me.

you do realise that we can NEVER be friends

NEVER


...now begone with you Shiek of irrelevancy and moral decadence
 
Which one is it?

Imo, if you're going to call it a holiday tree then there is no point in celebrating xmas by buying one in the first place.
 
Christmas tree vs Holiday tree?

Actual its neither

What we commonly call a Christmas tree was actual the Yule Tree.

Evergreens (from the Old English word aefie meaning “always” and gowan meaning “to grow”) have been symbols of eternal life and rebirth since ancient times. The pagan use and worship of evergreen boughs and trees has evolved into the Christianized Christmas tree.

Yule trees go way back in Pagan tradition, and generally were outdoor live trees that were decorated with hanging candles. The Yule tree lights and ornaments originally symbolized the sun, moon and stars as they looked on the Tree of Life. The Yule tree decorations also represented the souls of the departed who we remember at the end of the year. And then there is the modern day gift giving which originated from hanging sacred presents on the Yule tree as offerings to deities such as Attis and Dionysus. And to think all of this sprung from the pine groves equated with the Great Mother Goddess

Another custom dating back to Pagan roots is the burning of the Yule log. Originally the Yule bonfire was meant to give renewed life and power to the sun, thus the sun was reborn with the shortest day marking the time of year when the days started becoming longer. Traditionally Yule logs are oak, with the oak tree symbolizing the Cosmic Tree of Life, per Druid lore. Pine is also used to represent the dying Gods Attis, Dionysus and Woden.

On the old Roman calendar, December 25 (not December 21) was the date of the winter solstice. The winter solstice was also the traditional date to honor the birth of the pagan Divine Child, and Norsemen celebrated the birthday of their lord, Frey, at the winter solstice. After much argument, Pope Julius selected December 25 as Christ's Mass, or Christmas, in 350 A.D.-in part to counter persistent pagan solstice rites, but also because people of the time were already used to calling it a god's birthday. This proclamation was not without objection, however. The date was so controversial that eastern churches refused to honor it for another hundred years, and the church of Jerusalem ignored the date until the 7th century. And in an interesting twist, the fifth-century Bishop of Constantinople firmly believed December 25 was selected so Christians could celebrate Christ's birthday undisturbed while "the heathen were busy with their profane ceremonies"!
 
So much poop over a symbol man put on the birth of a religious figure.

Seems some so intent on proving we are Christmas Christians can miss the forest because of a Holiday tree. :roll:

The poll didn't have my two choices-

Taker's Tree
Over Hyped Symbol (of an over commercialized religious holiday).

I generally say Season's Greetings or Happy Holidays.

I grew up with Jewish and Muslim friends in the mix.

I don't care what you call it or what you say to others-

Just give me presents and be gone!
 
....I se that you are still following me and continuing your great skill of non-contribution.

sounds like you have a crush on me.

you do realise that we can NEVER be friends

NEVER


...now begone with you Shiek of irrelevancy and moral decadence

Was that Bolshevism or Nazism, I keep mixing those two up.

Why do we need to kill trees for such a holiday anyway?
 
Was that Bolshevism or Nazism, I keep mixing those two up.

Why do we need to kill trees for such a holiday anyway?

Do you equally shed tears when you unwrap a new roll of toilet paper ?

Your hatred for freedom and democracy is showing Shiek.

You need to repent and move away from your devotion to the highest form of fascist slavery ever devised by humanity, CORPORATISM.

you will never be forgiven for what you have done, but there is still time to save your soul
 
I don't know but it seems the Christmas Trees or whatever you want to call them...displayed at The White House, which is federal property doesn't offend the ACLU or the lunatic fringe progressive Left.
 
I don't know but it seems the Christmas Trees or whatever you want to call them...displayed at The White House, which is federal property doesn't offend the ACLU or the lunatic fringe progressive Left.

So what does Barack Hussein Obama call his tree?
 
Wonder if those 13% who are too broke to care voted for Obama...:roll:
 
I don't know but it seems the Christmas Trees or whatever you want to call them...displayed at The White House, which is federal property doesn't offend the ACLU or the lunatic fringe progressive Left.

Might not have bothered the tree huggers, but this get up Michelle wore to greet the WH Christmas Tree was very offensive... to fashionista's everywhere. What's with that boob belt anyway? Are they gonna hang her on the tree by that thing?

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I voted Christmas Tree. Holiday Tree sounds stupid... could be Halloween.
 
I voted the Christmas Tree.....as the Holiday Tree didn't have any Peaches I could shake.
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Might not have bothered the tree huggers, but this get up Michelle wore to greet the WH Christmas Tree was very offensive... to fashionista's everywhere. What's with that boob belt anyway? Are they gonna hang her on the tree by that thing?

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I voted Christmas Tree. Holiday Tree sounds stupid... could be Halloween.

If they hung her on the CHRISTMAS TREE...it would topple over for sure...Oh crap!!! I used the word hung talking about a black person!!!!!!!!!! I'm so sorry everyone!!! I should only use that when talking about whitey.
 
Might not have bothered the tree huggers, but this get up Michelle wore to greet the WH Christmas Tree was very offensive... to fashionista's everywhere.

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If she gets sick of that skirt it looks like it can be used as wrapping paper.
 
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