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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    How is it any more snarky than a manger scene? Here is the text...

    "At this season of the Winter Solstice, may reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds."

    This is a general statement of what atheists tend to believe. Why would those beliefs be snarky while statements of belief in sky gods and virgin births would not?

    Meanwhile the sign is a holiday tradition. This is the 17th year one has stood during December in the Wisconsin State Capitol rotunda for example.
    Your kidding right? It is SO snarky. A manger scene is not snarky. It is a symbol of the birth of Jesus. YOUR symbol belittles others' beliefs. Therefore, snarky and bitchy too.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well there's no choice. Atheists cannot stand being around religious symbols or words. Where's that at? I'm going to there and start belittling people myself before more atheists catch fire due to these reckless displays.
    I'll never tell! Can't have you starting a riot or something. I might then have to whip out the Bible. Then what?

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'll never tell! Can't have you starting a riot or something. I might then have to whip out the Bible. Then what?
    Then you just show how badly Christians still want to burn atheists at the stake. You already know it causes atheists to spontaneously break out in fire.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Then you just show how badly Christians still want to burn atheists at the stake. You already know it causes atheists to spontaneously break out in fire.
    Yes, Kill Them All. That's my motto.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'll never tell! Can't have you starting a riot or something. I might then have to whip out the Bible. Then what?
    I cannot understand anyone who "can't stand to be around a belief that is not his own." That includes atheists. When I was a junior in high school my father was sent to India with an agriculture aid program called Point 4. The purpose was to help the Indian government build an agriculture extension service similar to our system. In the US they work for one or more Universities and the US Dept of Agriculture in a cooperative program. Almost as soon as we got to the Hotel in New Delhi I took a train with others from the Delhi area which hooked up with other cars from all over India and Pakistan and ended up in Dehra Dun where we took buses to Mussoorie where we had our luggage transported by mule and we walked about 4 miles to the boarding school I attended. It was an adventure of a life time, except for the school food The whole adventure was great from attending such a fine school to living in Lucknow where the family was situated to spending time in the Colonization Projects in which the government was building homes and clearing farmland for the refugees from Pakistan after the partition.

    I went to school with Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Jain, Christians, Buddhists and Jewish and in our home we had a Hindu Bearer, a Muslim Cook and a Christian houseboy who was called a "sweeper". He was of the untouchable group but was actually the most educated of the bunch. We also shared a dobhi (washerman), a derzi (tailor). There is no welfare in India so it is expected of anyone middle class up to hire servants IAW ones income and place in life. Mama really liked it.

    What is the point of all this? If Christians can't accept atheists without issue, or atheists can't abide religious without issue, no matter how much or what any of us worship, then people just aren't worth crap. I get tired of people complaining about Romney was a Morman, Christians want a Nativity scene, and someone else does not want to be confronted with any worship of any kind or style. Ergo, I have a Christmas tree. I don't have a holiday tree. I have a Nativity scene in my living room. I also have a statue of Buddha which my father found in the Jungles of Burma during WWII at an old deserted temple which had been retaken by the jungle. If anyone doesn't like it, they can go straight to hell without passing go and collecting $200. After that experience in India, which taught me the most important thing in life, religious (or areligious) tolerance. When I did research about religions I CHOSE the most common Christian faith in the world because to me their doctrine more closely followed the New Testament and was the basis for all of the New Testaments printed today. Even the King James version which is quite popular among some denominations is nothing more than an English Translation of the original Christian New Testament. The reason I CHOSE this faith is because it was the most inclusive faith I found. It does not exclude the truths of any other religion to include the eastern religions. There, now you have it. What are you going to do about it?

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Your kidding right? It is SO snarky. A manger scene is not snarky. It is a symbol of the birth of Jesus. YOUR symbol belittles others' beliefs. Therefore, snarky and bitchy too.
    I agree with you. Scenes such as was described belittling other peoples beliefs is one sign of bigotry. I put up what I believe. I do not criticize what others believe, to do so is equally bigoted.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    My the Christmas spirit is strong with you /sarcasm
    Your response is irrelevant.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by dnsmith View Post
    I cannot understand anyone who "can't stand to be around a belief that is not his own." That includes atheists. When I was a junior in high school my father was sent to India with an agriculture aid program called Point 4. The purpose was to help the Indian government build an agriculture extension service similar to our system. In the US they work for one or more Universities and the US Dept of Agriculture in a cooperative program. Almost as soon as we got to the Hotel in New Delhi I took a train with others from the Delhi area which hooked up with other cars from all over India and Pakistan and ended up in Dehra Dun where we took buses to Mussoorie where we had our luggage transported by mule and we walked about 4 miles to the boarding school I attended. It was an adventure of a life time, except for the school food The whole adventure was great from attending such a fine school to living in Lucknow where the family was situated to spending time in the Colonization Projects in which the government was building homes and clearing farmland for the refugees from Pakistan after the partition.

    I went to school with Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Jain, Christians, Buddhists and Jewish and in our home we had a Hindu Bearer, a Muslim Cook and a Christian houseboy who was called a "sweeper". He was of the untouchable group but was actually the most educated of the bunch. We also shared a dobhi (washerman), a derzi (tailor). There is no welfare in India so it is expected of anyone middle class up to hire servants IAW ones income and place in life. Mama really liked it.

    What is the point of all this? If Christians can't accept atheists without issue, or atheists can't abide religious without issue, no matter how much or what any of us worship, then people just aren't worth crap. I get tired of people complaining about Romney was a Morman, Christians want a Nativity scene, and someone else does not want to be confronted with any worship of any kind or style. Ergo, I have a Christmas tree. I don't have a holiday tree. I have a Nativity scene in my living room. I also have a statue of Buddha which my father found in the Jungles of Burma during WWII at an old deserted temple which had been retaken by the jungle. If anyone doesn't like it, they can go straight to hell without passing go and collecting $200. After that experience in India, which taught me the most important thing in life, religious (or areligious) tolerance. When I did research about religions I CHOSE the most common Christian faith in the world because to me their doctrine more closely followed the New Testament and was the basis for all of the New Testaments printed today. Even the King James version which is quite popular among some denominations is nothing more than an English Translation of the original Christian New Testament. The reason I CHOSE this faith is because it was the most inclusive faith I found. It does not exclude the truths of any other religion to include the eastern religions. There, now you have it. What are you going to do about it?
    I'm not going to anything about it. I just think that nativity scenes and Christmas trees and Menorahs should probably be left out of all government buildings. I wonder how much money are they spending on these decorations for one thing. For another thing, it would avoid stupid conflicts like this.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, Kill Them All. That's my motto.

    that is where the phrase actually came from-not the vietnam war but rather the papists vs protestants or "heretic" wars


    This Day in Quotes: “Kill them all and let God sort them out.”

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