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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    Political correctness is typically just another way of saying common courtesy.
    No, it isn't. Political Correctness is a way for one person to hold another person to certain standards without their having to maintain the same level of standards themselves.

    For example:

    Public reaction would be much easier on a lesbian African American using racial slurs against a straight caucasian male, than vice-versa.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    See above.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    No, it isn't. Political Correctness is a way for one person to hold another person to certain standards without their having to maintain the same level of standards themselves. For example: Public reaction would be much easier on a lesbian African American using racial slurs against a straight caucasian male, than vice-versa.
    How would any of that involve you? Do you think you can manufacture inane hypotheticals and thereby excuse yourself from observing the basics of common courtesy?

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    How would any of that involve you?
    Why would it have to involve me?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    Do you think you can manufacture inane hypotheticals and thereby excuse yourself from observing the basics of common courtesy?
    How am I excusing myself from observing the basics of common courtesy? You're still under the foolish notion that political correctness and common courtesy are one in the same. They're not. Political Correctness deals primarily with race and gender. Common Courtesy simply deals with human decency.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    How would any of that involve you? Do you think you can manufacture inane hypotheticals and thereby excuse yourself from observing the basics of common courtesy?
    Let me understand this-you are making posts about 'common courtesy'? Doobie is correct, certain groups can get away with all sorts of slurs. Reasons are many but some are actually racist two ways.

    one form of racism is that of low expectations.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Which one is it?
    I could care less what people call their tree or say during the holidays. I am an atheist and I absolutely love this time of year. I love saying "merry christmas" and decorating trees and putting lights on my house. And dont care what anybody else thinks about the matter. If it offends somebody too ****ing bad. Ho Ho Ho, merry christmas!
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    As far as I'm concerned, it's a Christmas Tree, and anyone who finds the term offensive or prefers to call it a "Holiday Tree" can go f*ck themselves.
    It's like you're dreaming of Gorgonzola when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Why would it have to involve me?
    It's fairly simple and straightforward, actually. Consider the fact that Bob's lying to Sue does not relieve YOU of an obligation to honesty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    How am I excusing myself from observing the basics of common courtesy? You're still under the foolish notion that political correctness and common courtesy are one in the same. They're not. Political Correctness deals primarily with race and gender. Common Courtesy simply deals with human decency.
    Part of your problem may be that you don't understand the notion of political correctness -- it doesn't have the narrow and demarcated boundaries you suggest -- and instead use the term as you've been taught to, as a supposedly defamatory but actually hollow political buzzword in the style of "tax-and-spend liberal".

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Let me understand this-you are making posts about 'common courtesy'? Doobie is correct, certain groups can get away with all sorts of slurs. Reasons are many but some are actually racist two ways.
    No, he's just reciting from the primer. Perhaps you have "memorized" it as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    one form of racism is that of low expectations.
    Ah, this notion of disparaging via low expectations would indeed help explain right-wing reluctance to invest in the poor and in social safety nets.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    Political correctness is typically just another way of saying common courtesy.
    Not necessarily, and in this context, the P.C. terminology is absolutely offensive. We live in a multicultural society that demands respect for the customs of others. Any attempt to refer to a Christmas tree as a "holiday tree" is to disrespect the custom of Christmas, and thus to disrespect everyone who subscribes to Christianity or the Christmas custom. It's not a "holiday tree" any more than a menorah is a candelabra.
    It's like you're dreaming of Gorgonzola when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

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