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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    "Earth First". Does that ring a bell?
    I don't see how maybe not cutting down so many trees so we can stick popcorn and **** on them is somehow putting the lives of humans below the lives of plants.


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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    I don't see how maybe not cutting down so many trees so we can stick popcorn and **** on them is somehow putting the lives of humans below the lives of plants.
    So it's the slaughter of future Christmas trees that's hanging you up? Why didn't you say so?

    So what's your special connection to that particular plant life, anyways? I love to give my wife fresh cut flowers. Why don't they get any special consideration from you?

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    So it's the slaughter of future Christmas trees that's hanging you up? Why didn't you say so?

    So what's your special connection to that particular plant life, anyways? I love to give my wife fresh cut flowers. Why don't they get any special consideration from you?
    No, you said "Shows your insane regard for plant life over human life". How is human life being disregarded in any way based on what Captain said?

    You replied as if he suggested we cut down humans instead of trees lol


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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    No, you said "Shows your insane regard for plant life over human life". How is human life being disregarded in any way based on what Captain said?

    You replied as if he suggested we cut down humans instead of trees lol
    I meant 'human life' as in 'quality of human life'. Plus, it looks like he was more interested in topping my argument than he was defending plant life, so I really can't take what he says, seriously.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Or...

    Environut Hysterics: Shows your insane regard for plant life over human life.
    Your own hysterical strawman. Doesn't apply, so your comment is irrelevant.

    Gift Giving: Making this entirely about exchanging things, and ignoring the sharing of one's self.
    This is EXACTLY what I said. So you are agreeing with me that gift giving has made Christians shallow.

    Mistletoe: Rubbishing the very thing you profess to love: Plant life. Talk about hypocrisy....
    And again, demonstrating a hysterical strawman You're swinging in the air.

    The rest of that list represents your shared cynicism with obvious Child, therefore, I have no further interest in debating his clone, either.
    Not cynicism. Accurate description of what Christmas represents to a lot of Christians. None of the things you mentioned have anything to do with what Christmas actually represents.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I just wanted to mention that here at my nursery we call them Abies Nordmaniana, Picea Pungens, Abies bornmuelleriana, Pseudotsuga menzesii and other similarly melifluous names.
    IMHO Pseudotsuga menziesii are the only real ones (Picea pungens comes in a close second though). But then I am a bit biased I grew up in the xmas tree capitol of the world: Estacada, Oregon.

    But Im sure that any conifer will do, down here in New Mexico I always end up with a Pinaceae Pinus edulis perhaps its my location?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    IMHO Pseudotsuga menziesii are the only real ones (Picea pungens comes in a close second though). But then I am a bit biased I grew up in the xmas tree capitol of the world: Estacada, Oregon.

    But Im sure that any conifer will do, down here in New Mexico I always end up with a Pinaceae Pinus edulis perhaps its my location?
    Wait a minute, here. I though Boring was the Christmas tree capital of the world?!

    or is it Sandy?
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Wait a minute, here. I though Boring was the Christmas tree capital of the world?!

    or is it Sandy?
    Its Estacada but secretly its actually Molalla but no one likes that so we dont mention that.

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    Its Estacada but secretly its actually Molalla but no one likes that so we dont mention that.
    As long as it isn't Damascus, I'm good.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    As a Christian who celebrates Christmas for religious reasons I do view it as a Christmas tree. It does offend me somewhat when others want to call it a holiday tree or remove the Christmas aspect from it because I feel as if they are disrespecting my faith and traditions on a religious holiday. I would imagine some Jews would feel the same way if the Menorah was called a "holiday Menorah" and others wanted to mask the meaning it has with Hanukkah and the Jewish holiday.

    I completely support the "happy holidays" greeting though since there are many holidays in this season that are observed by many people. However, I don't like taking the Christmas tree, which is a decoration and traditional symbol for a Christian holiday, and calling it a holiday tree to try and erase the Christian tradition.
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