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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    "Always" in the US. The battleground is in the US, as this country is the last bastion of Christianity.
    Yeah, the Vatican is totally atheist these days.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    "Always" in the US. The battleground is in the US, as this country is the last bastion of Christianity.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Which one is it?
    If you're a Christian, it's a Christmas tree.

    If you're not, or if it's a public display, especially one put up by the government, it's a holiday tree.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Yeah, the Vatican is totally atheist these days.
    Actually, Catholicism isn't really a Christian religion.

    Rather, its roots are in pagan Egyptian sun worship.

    At least that's what Jack Chick says.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    To me a Holiday Tree is a palm tree because when I go on vacation that is all one sees on the rum islands !
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    To me they're not interchangeable. Christmas Tree is the whole presents under on Dec 25th tree. A holiday tree is a tradition in which a tree is maintained either all year or part of the year and decorated for different holidays.

    I didn't use to note a difference until I knew someone who had a holiday tree up - and did decorate it for every . . . single . . . holiday.
    A Holiday tree is becoming more apropos as a term as more Jewish families use a "Hanukkah Bush" to celebrate their winter holiday - a practice which is causing some tension among those who are the most religiously conservative among the Jews.

    The thing is holidays, as are many things, are fluid, and easily changed.

    After all, Black Friday gets more news coverage now than the Thanksgiving that precedes it. 100 years from now, we'll probably celebrate Black Friday instead of Thanksgiving, and the tradition will be that families will eat a big meal on the Thursday before so they can wait in long lines at malls and stores in order to get the big sales that stores provide on Black Friday, which is what that holiday will solely be about.

    So if holidays are so mutable, then I think making them inclusive is much better to our diverse society that trying to keep them exclusive.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    As long as no one attempts to force any one else to call it something different than they want to, it's fine with me. I call it a Christmas tree and I am not offended by people who call it a Holiday tree. As long as you accept that I call it what I want then I don't mind if you call it what you want.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Jesus was actually born in April, but that shouldn't diminish the beauty & tradition of December 25. It's the spirit of the holiday that really matters.
    If it's the spirit of the holiday that matters, why are you complaining about what to call the tree?
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    I call it a Christmas tree, though I'd be very surprised if the tradition of bringing in a tree of some kind for winter solstice didn't have origins in pre-Christian cultures.

    Pagan Origins of the Christmas Tree

    as for "holiday tree," that sounds dumb, so i don't use that phrasing myself. but it doesn't offend me if someone wants to call it that. it's a big 'ol world, and I can think of things that matter more.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    That depends on your definiton of "always". Originally it was celebrated on Jan 6th. It wasn't until the 4th century that the Church in Rome changed it to Dec 25th. Of course the Pagans had already been using that date and still do.

    But here is a little secret: more than one event can be celebrated on a given day
    It was changed to that day to accomadate new Pagan converts so that they could better acclamate to the new religion and its holy days. In fact the 25th may have started out as the 21st of december.

    Kelts celebrated several Pagan religious events during that time. And the evergreen tree was a big part of it.
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