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  • Christmas Tree.

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  • Holiday Tree.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I call it "Early Childhood Pyromania 101"
    I believe New Zealanders pay tax as well.

    Perhaps you can isolate yourself completely in Antarctica and keep all the money you make and pay no tax and not contribute in ay way to society.

    About 97% of all innovations and inventions can be traced back to state or tax payer funding.

    Even the Internet you are on now is one of those tax payer funded projects

    Who built your railroads, your roads, ports, etc???

    Notice how impoverished and rusty the US infrastructure is without tax payer funding?

    You didnt think the private sector vultures and inefficient Capitalist corporate leaches were going to build and maintain everything did you?

    And of course there are the Corporate fascist Wars the US inflicts upon other defenceless nations

    Gee I wonder where the money comes from for those war crimes and atrocities perpetrated on behalf of the Corporate Fascist Masters?

    So, you are more than welcome to paddle your way to the South Pole and live a perfect individualistic existence where YOU CAN KEEP THE MONEY YOU MAKE

    cheers

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    I believe New Zealanders pay tax as well.

    Perhaps you can isolate yourself completely in Antarctica and keep all the money you make and pay no tax and not contribute in ay way to society.

    About 97% of all innovations and inventions can be traced back to state or tax payer funding.

    Even the Internet you are on now is one of those tax payer funded projects

    Who built your railroads, your roads, ports, etc???

    Notice how impoverished and rusty the US infrastructure is without tax payer funding?

    You didnt think the private sector vultures and inefficient Capitalist corporate leaches were going to build and maintain everything did you?

    And of course there are the Corporate fascist Wars the US inflicts upon other defenceless nations

    Gee I wonder where the money comes from for those war crimes and atrocities perpetrated on behalf of the Corporate Fascist Masters?

    So, you are more than welcome to paddle your way to the South Pole and live a perfect individualistic existence where YOU CAN KEEP THE MONEY YOU MAKE

    cheers
    Firstly, I'll presume you're responding to my signature, secondly, you completely misread it.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Firstly, I'll presume you're responding to my signature, secondly, you completely misread it.
    You mean you were being sarcastic?

    Or are you being sacastic now?

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    It's a Yule tree. Christmas stole it.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    I believe New Zealanders pay tax as well.

    Perhaps you can isolate yourself completely in Antarctica and keep all the money you make and pay no tax and not contribute in ay way to society.

    About 97% of all innovations and inventions can be traced back to state or tax payer funding.

    Even the Internet you are on now is one of those tax payer funded projects

    Who built your railroads, your roads, ports, etc???

    Notice how impoverished and rusty the US infrastructure is without tax payer funding?

    You didnt think the private sector vultures and inefficient Capitalist corporate leaches were going to build and maintain everything did you?

    And of course there are the Corporate fascist Wars the US inflicts upon other defenceless nations

    Gee I wonder where the money comes from for those war crimes and atrocities perpetrated on behalf of the Corporate Fascist Masters?

    So, you are more than welcome to paddle your way to the South Pole and live a perfect individualistic existence where YOU CAN KEEP THE MONEY YOU MAKE

    cheers
    Wow, even on a thread about trees you bring the same old message. You forgot to mention that the 20th century had two other forms of fascism. Did you forget?

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Wow, even on a thread about trees you bring the same old message. You forgot to mention that the 20th century had two other forms of fascism. Did you forget?
    ....I se that you are still following me and continuing your great skill of non-contribution.

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    ...now begone with you Shiek of irrelevancy and moral decadence

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Which one is it?
    Imo, if you're going to call it a holiday tree then there is no point in celebrating xmas by buying one in the first place.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Christmas tree vs Holiday tree?

    Actual its neither

    What we commonly call a Christmas tree was actual the Yule Tree.

    Evergreens (from the Old English word aefie meaning “always” and gowan meaning “to grow”) have been symbols of eternal life and rebirth since ancient times. The pagan use and worship of evergreen boughs and trees has evolved into the Christianized Christmas tree.

    Yule trees go way back in Pagan tradition, and generally were outdoor live trees that were decorated with hanging candles. The Yule tree lights and ornaments originally symbolized the sun, moon and stars as they looked on the Tree of Life. The Yule tree decorations also represented the souls of the departed who we remember at the end of the year. And then there is the modern day gift giving which originated from hanging sacred presents on the Yule tree as offerings to deities such as Attis and Dionysus. And to think all of this sprung from the pine groves equated with the Great Mother Goddess

    Another custom dating back to Pagan roots is the burning of the Yule log. Originally the Yule bonfire was meant to give renewed life and power to the sun, thus the sun was reborn with the shortest day marking the time of year when the days started becoming longer. Traditionally Yule logs are oak, with the oak tree symbolizing the Cosmic Tree of Life, per Druid lore. Pine is also used to represent the dying Gods Attis, Dionysus and Woden.

    On the old Roman calendar, December 25 (not December 21) was the date of the winter solstice. The winter solstice was also the traditional date to honor the birth of the pagan Divine Child, and Norsemen celebrated the birthday of their lord, Frey, at the winter solstice. After much argument, Pope Julius selected December 25 as Christ's Mass, or Christmas, in 350 A.D.-in part to counter persistent pagan solstice rites, but also because people of the time were already used to calling it a god's birthday. This proclamation was not without objection, however. The date was so controversial that eastern churches refused to honor it for another hundred years, and the church of Jerusalem ignored the date until the 7th century. And in an interesting twist, the fifth-century Bishop of Constantinople firmly believed December 25 was selected so Christians could celebrate Christ's birthday undisturbed while "the heathen were busy with their profane ceremonies"!

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    So much poop over a symbol man put on the birth of a religious figure.

    Seems some so intent on proving we are Christmas Christians can miss the forest because of a Holiday tree.

    The poll didn't have my two choices-

    Taker's Tree
    Over Hyped Symbol (of an over commercialized religious holiday).

    I generally say Season's Greetings or Happy Holidays.

    I grew up with Jewish and Muslim friends in the mix.

    I don't care what you call it or what you say to others-

    Just give me presents and be gone!

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    ....I se that you are still following me and continuing your great skill of non-contribution.

    sounds like you have a crush on me.

    you do realise that we can NEVER be friends

    NEVER


    ...now begone with you Shiek of irrelevancy and moral decadence
    Was that Bolshevism or Nazism, I keep mixing those two up.

    Why do we need to kill trees for such a holiday anyway?

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