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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Absolutely! My keltic ancestors were converted between the 6th and 8th centuries ACE by Irish Keltic Monks including Germanys patron saint St Boniface. These guys understood the need to maintain traditions but the Christianize them so they wouldn't look so bad.

    The Mother Nerthus celebration become a feast of thanksgiving around a VERY large evergreen tree which was decorated with fruit and symbols of the clan and fetility.

    Later this practice spread north across the Rhine and even as far as Scandvania.

    It began as "pagan" and ended up Christain. WHO KNEW??
    Since most of christianity is based on pagan beliefs and rituals, I'd say it was apropos.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    Christianity is based upon the NEw Testament (the Gospels) - there is no mention of great floods in the New Testament.
    Are you saying that Christianity is completely separate from the Old Testament? I know plenty of Christians who would severely disagree with that, including some who have argued you'd go to Hell for saying something like that.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Slow down there, oC. You need to chew before you swallow.
    You need to think before you post.

    First of all, your anti-Christ/atheist view of the world's history remains unproven.
    Not an atheist. Furthermore, if you want to use that line, your Christian view of world history remains unproven. See how easy I turned that against you?

    In your circles, there still may, or may not, be a God, and there's nothing you can say or do to change that fact. If there is a God, which there is, then Jesus Christ precedes your moronic "clan form hierarchy", and that makes your point, moot.
    Thus you have no actual rebuttal to anything I said.

    Now, as I said earlier. Those other points I listed are all positive things, and Jesus Christ is ALL about the positives. You bark at me soley for the sake of ignorance. This tells me that, obviously, you are more child than you are adult -- at least mentally and emotionally.
    Really? That's your argument? That may get nominated for the ****tiest argument of the month award.

    You toss out an insult, get totally destroyed and then try to weasel out of mess that collapsed on top of you. Man up. Seriously, so many immature children here.

    You cannot even provide a single rebuttal to anything I said.
    You cannot address any of the examples I posted.
    You cannot show how family or goodwill are specifically Christ based.

    Seems you need to rethink using personal attacks before reflecting on your own arguments. This is your last warning before I start treating you how I treat people I detest here.

    Just to point out how you have failed I'm going to REPEAT the list of rituals that have nothing to do with Christianity but that you PERSONALLY insulted me over and that you have no response to DESPITE calling ME ignorant.

    Since you think you are so smart, enough that you'll risk a TOS violation, want to explain to me how the follow traditions are from Christ?

    Christmas Trees
    Gift Giving (and it's whole slew of Commercialization)
    Mistletoe
    Yule Tide Logs
    Eggnog
    Frosty the Snowman
    December 25 as Christ's Birthday (which it clearly cannot be based on the descriptions in the Bible)
    Santa Claus
    Christmas Stockings
    Holly, Ivy and Greenery
    Poinsettias
    Jack Frost
    Christmas cards

    You serious? How is family, which has existed since the dawn of the first clan form of organism hierarchy proof of anything you say?
    Christmas Caroling is related to Christ how? Sure we sing songs about Christ, but that doesn't that caroling in itself is BECAUSE of Christ. Furthermore, Roman Mummers during the holidays would go around in costume in troops singing. Sounds familiar?


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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Xmouse tree.
    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    The systems that ensure freedom and liberty are breaking down and fundamentalism is growing. Nobody is righteous anymore.


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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    BTW, everyone should totally start hanging mistletoe over their bed, both above the pillows and another near the center of the mattress.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Right. Your biased, idiot, notion of Conservatives and Liberals. Congratulations Captain Coourtesy, you've managed to capture and convey your true understanding of the issues in one fell swoop!
    This is an excellent example of what I said. I did not claim that conservatives in general were closed minded and rigid. I claimed YOU were. And your post validates my perception. Good job.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    BTW, everyone should totally start hanging mistletoe over their bed, both above the pillows and another near the center of the mattress.
    You could just wear one of these:

    Amazon.com: Elope Springy Mistletoe Headband, Multi-Colored, One Size: Clothing

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    It's a Christmas Tree. It's a tree for Christmas. It's not for any other holiday. Just like a Menorah isn't a holiday lamp. It's for a specific holiday. Just like you should say "Merry Christmas" on Christmas.
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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Everyone calls it a Christmas tree of course. But if I heard someone call it a holiday tree I wouldn't freak out and think the government is trying to destroy Christmas.

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    Re: Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This is an excellent example of what I said. I did not claim that conservatives in general were closed minded and rigid. I claimed YOU were. And your post validates my perception. Good job.
    The Left constantly claims that, and your words reflect that mindset. You and I both know you were referring to the Right, in general. Nice try, but I saw right through it.

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