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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I can't believe how outnumbered I am here. I truly believe AID's research is a huge waste of better spent resources but then again I thought Romney would win in a land slide. No wonder I live out in the woods three miles from my nearest neighbor, SHEEESH. Good night!
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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    What all of you are missing is there are only so many research dollars and only so many researchers to go around. Every time you spend a dollar on AIDS which is by and large a preventable disease, you take a dollar from diseases that people get through no fault of their own. You all seem to be OK with that but I am most definitely not. I am the pragmatic sort and believe in prioritizing and delegating limited resources where they will do the most good for the most people. Let's say 10% of AIDS victims are guiltless and got the disease through no fault of their own, compare that to MS, Parkinson's, Child hood Leukemia etc where 100% of the victims get the disease through no fault of their own. Where are the finite dollars better spent? If your answer is AIDS you are being PC not practical and people will die and suffer horrible lives because of you but you yourself will feel so proud that you are so enlightened and compassionate. Congratulations.
    If you will notice even conservatives think you are wrong. You do not know what you are talking about as usual and are not willing to listen to the facts being pressented.

    Everyone is aware of the dollar issue. the main point it you inablitty to accept what the current state of affairs is regarding aids or HIV. You cling to a neanderrthal idea about something that is just not true and will not try and understand what you are being told.

    Thousands have aids through no fault of their own. We should help anyone WE CAN and try and FIND A CURE.

    To follow your logic. We should stop trying to find a cure for cancer because their are just too many forms and there is not enought money to research all of them. Or is it just AiDS?
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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    So tell me exactly where I am wrong.
    Read the posts by everryone else in this thread. Carefully, very carefully. It you still don't get it you never will and that is a shame
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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    NHO - source. In todays world the majority of infected persons from unprotected sex is less than those infected by other means.

    Also see - WHO, CIC, National Aids website, AMA newletters, UN, etc etc etc.
    I rest my case.


    Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]-us_gender_graph-jpg

    On the left is men who are the vast majority of AIDS victims.

    EDIT: Earlier in this thread I said maybe 10% of AIDS victims got it by some other means than unprotected sex or drug use, apparently I was wrong. It is a whopping 1%. I stand corrected. Now tell me again why we need to take funding from other diseases you get through no fault of your own to cure a disease that is 99% preventable.
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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    And from Wolfman we hear:


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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I rest my case.


    Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]-us_gender_graph-jpg

    On the left is men who are the vast majority of AIDS victims.

    EDIT: Earlier in this thread I said maybe 10% of AIDS victims got it by some other means than unprotected sex or drug use, apparently I was wrong. It is a whopping 1%. I stand corrected. Now tell me again why we need to take funding from other diseases you get through no fault of your own to cure a disease that is 99% preventable.
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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    And from Wolfman we hear:


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    And nothing of any value regarding this subject from Idaho.
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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Read the posts
    At the risk of repeating myself:

    Originally Posted by wolfman24
    . In todays world the majority of infected persons from unprotected sex is less than those infected by other means.



    As you can clearly see in the graph I posted only 1% get AIDS from sources other than unprotected sex or drug abuse. 77% of men get it from unprotected sex alone and 86% of women get it the same way so your statement was flat out wrong, just admit it and move on.

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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Sawyer, have you ever had sex without a condom?

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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Clearly the solution is to outlaw sex and drug use.

    This is what happens with black and white thinking. They are incapable of understanding that people don't realize that they have HIV. They don't realize that innocent spouses may contract it from unfaithful partners. They want to pretend that people who don't engage in high risk activities also get HIV.
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