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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    A substantial number of people with HIV... don't know they have it. Nor do they know their partners have it. It's an epidemic, regardless of any backwards notions of sexual morality. Here's a scenario. One partner gets HIV from a cheating spouse. Tell me exactly why that person should be disregarded? No one's plight should be abandoned because sex makes some people uncomfortable.
    You unfortunately have to crunch the numbers or should anyway

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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If it were my child I would spend my last dollar but in the big picture society has to prioritize. Dollars are not limitless and when you spend so much money on AID's you take it from other diseases that are not preventable. Look at a little kid with Leukemia then look at some promiscuous gay needle sharing drug addict and then you tell me how our limited dollars are better spent.

    Sawyer...terminal disease is just that...we as a society should NEVER allow humans to suffer and throw them away because they are gay or addicts..
    We didnt do that to all the STRAIGHT non addicted people that caught syphillis and we shouldnt do it with aids patients either..we need to do all we can

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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    AIDS is a disease that for the most part is due to promiscuous sex or drug abuse and IMO taking money from things like childhood leukemia, MS, Parkinson's etc and giving it to a group of people who pretty much deserve what they got is a huge waste of resources. The only reason we spend so much money on it is that so many people that have it or fear they may contract it are so vocal and being gay is
    so trendy as a current human right. So heres the question, should we be funding research to cure these people or worse yet find a vaccine to let them engage in their risky lifestyle with no consequences?

    EDIT: sorry I blew the poll part but I would be interested in your opinions.
    Absolutely without question yes, we should use tax money that affects any and all humans.


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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    I can't believe how outnumbered I am here. I truly believe AID's research is a huge waste of better spent resources but then again I thought Romney would win in a land slide. No wonder I live out in the woods three miles from my nearest neighbor, SHEEESH. Good night!

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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I can't believe how outnumbered I am here. I truly believe AID's research is a huge waste of better spent resources but then again I thought Romney would win in a land slide. No wonder I live out in the woods three miles from my nearest neighbor, SHEEESH. Good night!
    1. AIDS can be transmitted through birth, I doubt all the children in Africa and other parts of world got AIDS from having sex with each other
    2. Outside of that, no one should be punished or pushed aside for doing a normal human activity like having sex
    3. No one deserves to get a disease
    4. Being gay is not trendy, it's a human reality
    5. You should probably move closer to civilization, or at least learn more about it.


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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    If I knew that the money would be used properly without red tape and bureaucrat influence then I would be all for it. However, since most tax payer money involves bureaucrats...I don't trust that it will be used for the best.
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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    AIDS is a disease that for the most part is due to promiscuous sex or drug abuse and IMO taking money from things like childhood leukemia, MS, Parkinson's etc and giving it to a group of people who pretty much deserve what they got is a huge waste of resources. The only reason we spend so much money on it is that so many people that have it or fear they may contract it are so vocal and being gay is
    so trendy as a current human right. So heres the question, should we be funding research to cure these people or worse yet find a vaccine to let them engage in their risky lifestyle with no consequences?

    EDIT: sorry I blew the poll part but I would be interested in your opinions.
    Until we get statistics of who got aids due to their own negligence(drug users and those engaging in promiscuous/casual sex) verses who got aids through no fault of their own(rape victims, people born with it, individuals whose cheating spouses gave it to them, individuals who were deliberately infected by someone with hiv/aids, someone who got a bad blood transfusion and etc) we shouldn't be making judgements as to which research is more deserving of funds. If hypothetically statistics said that 99% of aids victims got it due their own negligence then I could see cutting off funding and just just give those one percent medications to treat their aids.
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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I can't believe how outnumbered I am here. I truly believe AID's research is a huge waste of better spent resources but then again I thought Romney would win in a land slide. No wonder I live out in the woods three miles from my nearest neighbor, SHEEESH. Good night!
    Your outnumbered sawyer because your on the wrong side of a very human issue...this goes to the heart of what america is and should be...we all have our differnces, politically and about hot button issues...but we should all be on the same page when it comes to americans suffering or in pain and that means ALL AMERICANS...and when its about human suffering and death and sickness we all need to put all our bias's and likes and dislikes aside and do the best we can to make it better....
    You want to decide who suffers and who doesnt and which disease ALL AMERICANS tax dollars are spent on to cure. I dont have a single family member that has aids or hiv...Ive never had that I know of...and im still opposed to your way of thinking on this...I think you should really reconsider what your expecting us to say....if you have aids..were not spending a nickel on you or aids to stop it...just die because I dont think your life is worth anything because you contracted aids....sorry sawyer that sucks buddy.

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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I can't believe how outnumbered I am here. I truly believe AID's research is a huge waste of better spent resources but then again I thought Romney would win in a land slide. No wonder I live out in the woods three miles from my nearest neighbor, SHEEESH. Good night!
    Problem is, you have a anti-gay streak in you sawyer and I have a sneaky suspicion that you are of the belief that AIDS is a gay disease affecting only gay people (specifically gay males). That kind of bias doesn't help you see the issue as a whole.
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    re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    AIDS is a disease that for the most part is due to promiscuous sex or drug abuse and IMO taking money from things like childhood leukemia, MS, Parkinson's etc and giving it to a group of people who pretty much deserve what they got is a huge waste of resources. The only reason we spend so much money on it is that so many people that have it or fear they may contract it are so vocal and being gay is
    so trendy as a current human right. So heres the question, should we be funding research to cure these people or worse yet find a vaccine to let them engage in their risky lifestyle with no consequences?

    EDIT: sorry I blew the poll part but I would be interested in your opinions.
    Yikes at the bolded.

    I see the line you're trying to draw, but what about people who get sick from smoking, eating unhealthy foods, etc.? No funding for research for what they end up with? It's often preventable to a certain extent.
    Last edited by RepublicanMcDuc; 11-29-12 at 11:39 PM.

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