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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    I don't know any senior citizens at all. I do know a number of gay men in their 50s.
    They're lucky. The odds are against 'em, depending on the lifestyle they chose when they were young. Gay men usually have many partners. Each partner multiplies the chance of contracting HIV. Add a little partying and some coke... get careless once, and you're living with a death sentence.

    You say there are private organizations that educate groups on the dangers of AIDS? Wonder who their audience is... do you know? Not schools, that's for sure. A few statistics may be thrown out... but no way is a liberal institution gonna admit there's any problem associated with being gay.

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by Smartmouthwoman View Post
    They're lucky. The odds are against 'em, depending on the lifestyle they chose when they were young. Gay men usually have many partners. Each partner multiplies the chance of contracting HIV. Add a little partying and some coke... get careless once, and you're living with a death sentence.

    You say there are private organizations that educate groups on the dangers of AIDS? Wonder who their audience is... do you know? Not schools, that's for sure. A few statistics may be thrown out... but no way is a liberal institution gonna admit there's any problem associated with being gay.


    This kinda sounds like the transexual that you work with that you mentioned on another forum. Now all of the sudden your brother die of aids? Seems to me that your rants both here and on other forums about gays, transexuals, or anything you do not like. You seem to have to make it a personal story to justify your beliefs. Why is that?
    The sad thing is people who are so uncomfortable with themselves call it a "lifestyle". I think our money is better spent on finding a cure for this as opposed to giving corporate welfare, and funding wars we have no business being in. There is nothing wrong with being gay, and the 80's slogan that it a gay problem is very sinical thought process. I find it funny that there are still a few people in this world that think gays sleep around more that straight people. Delusional is what it should be called!

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Ladies and gentlemen lets get down to the crux of the matter if we can.

    The dishonourable gentlemen from Idaho's opinion in the original post is pure, unadulterated, judgemental crap.

    Shared only by those who are in extreme opposition to homosexuality and fornication.

    The dishonourable gentlemen from Idaho has on many occasions expressed such extreme views as thinking that Gay marriage will lead to legal sex with children so we know where his views come from.

    Opposition to gay marriage and sex outside of wedlock is quickly becoming an extinct idea and increasingly becoming viewed as intolerant in an ever changing world that is more accepting of one of our basic human desires, to have sex.

    I contest that his views are not only ignorant, but downright disgusting as the very notion that even if someone were to do something that we disagree with, having sex in a way we don't approve of, or being riskier in sexual activities than the general population deserves to die the horrible death that AIDS inflicts on it's victims is not only abbhorent but shows that a person with such views swims in a sea of unintelligence, inexperience, lack of education and most important of all insensitivity to the millions of victims around the world who did not choose their fate, but had this horrible disease thrust upon them.

    This disease is a social, economic and moral issue that deserves our utmost attention.

    Millions of my countrymen have paid the price for lack of action towards this disease in the 90's and early 2000's due to attitudes like Sawyers and I will oppose it in the strongest terms wherever I see them.

    That's the word I stick to it.

    Jetboogieman


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    Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by Smartmouthwoman View Post
    They're lucky. The odds are against 'em, depending on the lifestyle they chose when they were young. Gay men usually have many partners. Each partner multiplies the chance of contracting HIV. Add a little partying and some coke... get careless once, and you're living with a death sentence.

    You say there are private organizations that educate groups on the dangers of AIDS? Wonder who their audience is... do you know? Not schools, that's for sure. A few statistics may be thrown out... but no way is a liberal institution gonna admit there's any problem associated with being gay.
    No liberal organization is going to admit that there's a problem with being gay because there isn't a problem with being gay. There are problems associated with unprotected sex, which is certainly a problem in the gay male community (especially the younger ones), just like it's a problem for straight people (especially those who engage in anal sex). But there is no problem with being gay. I live in San Francisco. Most of the older gay men I know are basically monogamous. My first exposure to gay culture came from my uncle (who lives in Manhattan). He and his partner of 30+ years got married a few months ago. The stereotype - which apparently is consistent with your experiences - is waning in popularity.

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ladies and gentlemen lets get down to the crux of the matter if we can.

    The dishonourable gentlemen from Idaho's opinion in the original post is pure, unadulterated, judgemental crap.

    Shared only by those who are in extreme opposition to homosexuality and fornication.

    The dishonourable gentlemen from Idaho has on many occasions expressed such extreme views as thinking that Gay marriage will lead to legal sex with children so we know where his views come from.

    Opposition to gay marriage and sex outside of wedlock is quickly becoming an extinct idea and increasingly becoming viewed as intolerant in an ever changing world that is more accepting of one of our basic human desires, to have sex.

    I contest that his views are not only ignorant, but downright disgusting as the very notion that even if someone were to do something that we disagree with, having sex in a way we don't approve of, or being riskier in sexual activities than the general population deserves to die the horrible death that AIDS inflicts on it's victims is not only abbhorent but shows that a person with such views swims in a sea of unintelligence, inexperience, lack of education and most important of all insensitivity to the millions of victims around the world who did not choose their fate, but had this horrible disease thrust upon them.

    This disease is a social, economic and moral issue that deserves our utmost attention.

    Millions of my countrymen have paid the price for lack of action towards this disease in the 90's and early 2000's due to attitudes like Sawyers and I will oppose it in the strongest terms wherever I see them.

    That's the word I stick to it.

    Jetboogieman

    This is great stuff right here !!

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    All of it.

    My country of South Africa has been ravaged by HIV aids.

    Your thoughts are not only wrong, but disgusting if you are trying to make the claim that 100's of thousands of my countrymen deserve to die because of something you THINK they did but don't actually know.

    You're an insult to intelligence.

    most if the AIDS in sub-saharan africa comes from several factors that unite in unholy matrimony

    the first is the myth that an infected man can cure his AIDS by having sex with virgins.

    second is that anal straight intercourse is a common form of "birth control"


    third is the nomadic nature of many man in that area

    so when you have nomadic men having unprotected anal sex with increasingly younger women that passes on massive amounts of STDS which in turn makes people ideal potential victims of AIDS.


    and yes, those young girls who get buggered by infected men who are in turn infected themselves are not to blame. frankly I would lose no sleep if men who knowingly infect young girls were shot or physically rendered permanently incapable of infecting other girls. they are pretty much dead men walking anyway

    but we need to continue to try to find a cure for that disease for those who are innocent victims

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by Smartmouthwoman View Post
    That's quite a personal attack you got going on there, joko. Makes me scared to express an opinion... nearly.

    I'd be OK with using tax dollars to fight AIDS. But I'd want my money to go into public education programs to spread the word that AIDS kills. You know, that same word gay supporters try so hard to sweep under the rug and pretend doesn't exist?

    When's the last time the 'gay marriage' crowd had a heart-to-heart talk about the dangers of AIDS with a young gay man?

    I'd bet never.

    Spend my tax dollars educating people. Tell women they're becoming infected at a higher rate than men in this country. Often via transmission by a spouse who has sex with other men. Don't believe lots of married man have sex with other men on the side? Log onto an adult chatroom and count the MM4M players. Don't be naive. AIDS kills.
    You make a good point here. Government spends alot educating people on the dangers of smoking but little if any on the danger of behaviors that cause AIDS. I will make an add for them.


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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    And what profound knowledge of microbiology is that based on? The fact that we've never made a vaccine to a virus? The fact that we've haven't already developed antiretroviral drugs that extend people's lives significantly
    And how effective are those drugs at killing the AIDS virus??

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ladies and gentlemen lets get down to the crux of the matter if we can.

    The dishonourable gentlemen from Idaho's opinion in the original post is pure, unadulterated, judgemental crap.

    Shared only by those who are in extreme opposition to homosexuality and fornication.

    The dishonourable gentlemen from Idaho has on many occasions expressed such extreme views as thinking that Gay marriage will lead to legal sex with children so we know where his views come from.

    Opposition to gay marriage and sex outside of wedlock is quickly becoming an extinct idea and increasingly becoming viewed as intolerant in an ever changing world that is more accepting of one of our basic human desires, to have sex.

    I contest that his views are not only ignorant, but downright disgusting as the very notion that even if someone were to do something that we disagree with, having sex in a way we don't approve of, or being riskier in sexual activities than the general population deserves to die the horrible death that AIDS inflicts on it's victims is not only abbhorent but shows that a person with such views swims in a sea of unintelligence, inexperience, lack of education and most important of all insensitivity to the millions of victims around the world who did not choose their fate, but had this horrible disease thrust upon them.

    This disease is a social, economic and moral issue that deserves our utmost attention.

    Millions of my countrymen have paid the price for lack of action towards this disease in the 90's and early 2000's due to attitudes like Sawyers and I will oppose it in the strongest terms wherever I see them.

    That's the word I stick to it.

    Jetboogieman

    First of all, your lumping two groups together, that should be separate.
    1. Those who contract AIDS by their own actions. (sharing needles or through sexual intercourse)
    2. Those who contract AIDS by unfortunate accidents such as contaminated medical equipment or during child birth.

    You act like anyone who isn’t in line with your progressive ideas, is behind the time, when in reality those progressive ideas are the very cause of the epidemic in question! You act like you are the ones with all the forward thinking ideas, and the rest of us are uneducated hillbillies. The fact that you can claim to be so informed and educated and still advocate for the ideas of sexual freedom outside of marriage and gay acceptance, and at the same time, turn a blind eye to the dangers associated with both, tells me that you are merely a lost voice in a sea of voices trying to drown out all opposition and rational thought, in an effort to justify your actions.
    Just because this gentleman from Idaho disagrees with you, and has a different set of moral values, does not make him dishonorable. To bring his honor into question in such a inappropriate way only goes to show how little you yourself have. The attitude of these forward thinkers, is to do what they want and blame the consequences on those who oppose them, as if the very act of opposition creates the consequences and brings about the reality. This is evidenced in the fact that you blame the fate of your countrymen on the attitude of others, instead of the actions of the men and women who made the choices in the first place! You cannot blame unintelligence, inexperience, lack of education and insensitivity. These may be contributors in certain areas of the world, but you yourself profess to be the opposite of all of these things, and yet in your free thinking attitude, you still maintain that its not only ok, but its encouraged to do the very things that education and experience would dictate otherwise. You want your cake and you want to eat it too, and if there are any problems that arise, blame the guy from Idaho.

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You make a good point here. Government spends alot educating people on the dangers of smoking but little if any on the danger of behaviors that cause AIDS. I will make an add for them.


    Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]-aids-jpg


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    Exactly. Instead of waiting until it's too late, then paying for ads like this:



    AIDS is growing fastest in the black community. Too bad Michelle Obama didn't focus on that issue instead of bullying America's fat kids. Her attention might've made a real difference. Fat chance, huh?

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