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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I answered that already, IMO diseases should get higher priority if you get them through no fault of your own. Diseases you bring on yourself through lifestyle choices should be at the bottom of the funding list not at the very top as AIDS is. I think this is the third time I have said this.
    AIDs can be spread by other means than sex, and in many cases, many people don't know that their partners have AIDs and many of the partners don't know it themselves.
    So you and your wife have sex. It's perfectly normal, no? Then you and your wife discovers that you both have AIDs, from your wife, then to yourself. Is it lifestyle that you can blame? Or what about an AIDs-infected blood donation?
    Also, your premise rests on the assumption that medical spending should be prioritized based on whether the disease was the patient's own fault. Then should be decrease spending on cures for liver or lung cancer? What about care for those involved in traffic accidents? Should there be courts finding whether the accidents were their fault and promptly withdraw funding?
    Things are a lot more complicated than "American" values of responsibility and such.
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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    AIDs can be spread by other means than sex, and in many cases, many people don't know that their partners have AIDs and many of the partners don't know it themselves.
    So you and your wife have sex. It's perfectly normal, no? Then you and your wife discovers that you both have AIDs, from your wife, then to yourself. Is it lifestyle that you can blame? Or what about an AIDs-infected blood donation?
    Also, your premise rests on the assumption that medical spending should be prioritized based on whether the disease was the patient's own fault. Then should be decrease spending on cures for liver or lung cancer? What about care for those involved in traffic accidents? Should there be courts finding whether the accidents were their fault and promptly withdraw funding?
    Things are a lot more complicated than "American" values of responsibility and such.
    You are late to the conversation, I posted a pie chart of who gets AIDS and why. 99% get it from making bad decisions on unprotected promiscuous sex and or sharing needles.

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I answered that already, IMO diseases should get higher priority if you get them through no fault of your own. Diseases you bring on yourself through lifestyle choices should be at the bottom of the funding list not at the very top as AIDS is. I think this is the third time I have said this.
    So, using this premise, should Alzheimer's research receive more funding than AID's research? Even though AID's affects younger populations whereas Alzheimer's affects mainly older populations?

    Also, should money be spent on how many people receive the disease or how deadly the disease is? Lung cancer is the most deadly cancer yet it receives less funding than many other different types of cancers.

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    AIDs spread by other means than sex, and in many cases, many people don't know that their partners have AIDs and many of the partners don't know it themselves.
    Other than that, why do you think AIDs is incurable? Most people 2 centuries ago thought that flight was impossible due to the never-ending failures. ㅡㅡ;;
    Your right, AIDS is spread by other means than sex, but the cases are few and far between. Not nearly enough cases to perpetuate the disease on its own. As far as partners not knowing or not telling that they have AIDS, that also would be a non issue if they limited themselves to a single sex partner. Contrary to popular belief, you can be cool and still only sleep with one person.

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    So, using this premise, should Alzheimer's research receive more funding than AID's research? Even though AID's affects younger populations whereas Alzheimer's affects mainly older populations?

    Also, should money be spent on how many people receive the disease or how deadly the disease is? Lung cancer is the most deadly cancer yet it receives less funding than many other different types of cancers.
    Yes Alzheimers should most definately get more funding for research than AIDS. Think of what that would do to our life expextancy if we cured that!
    Dont even get me started on the cancer thing, i think breast cancer gets way to much attention. Not that its not a terrible disease, but as you stated, there are many other cancers that are neglected because of it.

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    So, using this premise, should Alzheimer's research receive more funding than AID's research? Even though AID's affects younger populations whereas Alzheimer's affects mainly older populations?

    Also, should money be spent on how many people receive the disease or how deadly the disease is? Lung cancer is the most deadly cancer yet it receives less funding than many other different types of cancers.
    I have made my position very clear, how would you prioritize funding of diseases. What would be your criteria for which diseases to focus on?

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    Your right, AIDS is spread by other means than sex, but the cases are few and far between. Not nearly enough cases to perpetuate the disease on its own. As far as partners not knowing or not telling that they have AIDS, that also would be a non issue if they limited themselves to a single sex partner. Contrary to popular belief, you can be cool and still only sleep with one person.
    But, even then, it can have a ripple effect. Suppose someone only slept with one person, but the person slept with, say, 3 people before that. And then each one of those 3 people slept with one or multiple people. And on and on.

    If I remember the stat correctly, I think it's 1 in 4 people who have AID's don't know they have it.

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I have made my position very clear, how would you prioritize funding of diseases. What would be your criteria for which diseases to focus on?
    I don't think there is one single way to prioritize diseases. It's a combination of frequency, how deadly it is, whether it affects mainly younger population or older populations, whether or not it's spreadable, etc, etc.

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    But, even then, it can have a ripple effect. Suppose someone only slept with one person, but the person slept with, say, 3 people before that. And then each one of those 3 people slept with one or multiple people. And on and on.

    If I remember the stat correctly, I think it's 1 in 4 people who have AID's don't know they have it.
    Your making my argument for only having one sex partner even more appealing. Im saying everyone should only have one sex partner, not just every 10th person. If we all only have one, we either wont catch it, or we wont spread it, either way it stops it in its tracks. I thinks its the simplicity of the plan that is throwing everyone off...

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    Re: Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    I don't think there is one single way to prioritize diseases. It's a combination of frequency, how deadly it is, whether it affects mainly younger population or older populations, whether or not it's spreadable, etc, etc.
    So old people who get Alzheimer's through no fault of their own should be put behind a young needle sharing drug addict just because he's young?

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